"Teddit is Shutting Down. Lemmy is the New Reddit"
Teddit is a free and open source alternative Reddit front-end focused on privacy. Teddit doesn't require you to have JavaScript enabled in your browser.
You all need to find the courage to close with reddit forever. It's done, don't you see it? Everything was taken away from apps to moderators power, purge of old messages, and soon the reward system. What this suppost to mean? What else will be removed? It is in falldown.
Don't worry... it's all being replaced with direct payment to approved contributors... going tiktok model, it can get way shittier, and it will.
Luckily I won't be there to see it because I no longer give a fuck about Reddit whatsoever. It sucks that much of the knowledge contained there will ultimately die, but we must build anew. It has been a learning experience that hopefully enough of us have taken to heart that a new and better way of doing things will stick.
I would like to, but the fact is lemmy is 99% shitposts and memes. Don't get me wrong, I like that stuff but I also need to know wtf is going on in the world. Since losing rif and refusing to use the official app, I am now basically getting news when my wife sees it on Facebook, which means it's old news by then.
The reality is that the shitpost and meme communities will be the ones that give birth to the niche communities we need to thrive. It's easy, low-effort, but fun-enough and engaging enough to get people through the door.
It’s a process. Memes are the lowest common denominator, will get a lot of ppl on the site, then small communities will grow. Some are already useful, I curate a list that I follow and see when I open my app, and I can already see world news like the Italy heatwave, actor strike, etc. at the top. Not perfect, but already beter than 1 week ago.
Block memes communities in your profile settings.
I get my news from the AP and I'm very happy with it. It's one of the few apps that I allow push notifications for so I don't even need to check the app to get the top headlines, I just tap on the ones that look interesting and clear the rest.
I’m hoping the quality of the content will grow over time. I don’t even give a shit about porn but right now it’s like half this place is posts about wet pussies and subs about ass and it’s grossing me the fuck out. I’ve been curating so it’s getting better but still
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I unfortunately still have some subreddits I need to follow there, but much more of my time is spent over here these days.
They should've done it during the protests. Either actually threaten to walk out or engage in malicious compliance like r/PICS, even if Reddit does replace them with paid moderators, and direct people to alternatives.
I gave up on Reddit the day Apollo died and haven’t looked back. Lemmy’s a nicer place.
I came from Sync. I'll pour one out for you, brother
Same here! I've been enjoying Connect as an experience but I am looking forward to Sync for Lemmy. It's actually the whole reason I came here. I was going to just give up once sync shut down but Lemmy has been a nice transition.
Likewise, but with RIF
same, but with baconreader. I try to avoid reddit on pc now as well
Same but with Joey.. That one held out for a bit longer and I had my hopes up that they figured out a way to keep running somehow
With voyager (formerly wefwef) there is a perfect Apollo alternative for Lemmy
Huh, didn’t realise it’s been renamed to Voyager!
I used to use RIF (and briefly Narwhal) and ended up using Connect.
It's not quite what I want, but close enough.
Have you tried Voyager? On my iPhone, it makes Lemmy feel almost exactly like Apollo. You may like it.
Yeah! I quite like it, I’ve been using both Voyager and Memmy —didn’t realise Wefwef had been renamed though!
Oh, hey! I'm the guy behind tedd.it. Didn't really expect to see it here, but thank you for the mention!
I've been running tedd.it for just about over a year now, and it's heartbreaking for me to end it this way. tedd.it was the choice of thousands for a safer, simpler, more private way to browse reddit. I'm a big online privacy advocate, so hosting this instance was a mission for me more than anything: to help others improve their privacy, even if just a little bit.
Sadly, with how much traffic tedd.it is seeing, there is no way I could possibly pay for API access. Even with lots of caching, we're speaking tens of thousands of dollars at least. With the site constantly rate-limited now, there's no point in keeping it up - it's not exactly cheap to host, even before the API changes. I had to make this difficult choice.
It's worth mentioning that tedd.it is just one instance of the teddit project. Obviously I don't speak for the entire project, but from conversations I had with other hosts I believe the feelings are mutual. The project is already kinda stale with the maintainer very low on activity, and Reddit's third party apps ban feels like the final nail in the coffin.
I'm a big supporter of the Fediverse. I think it's our best attempt at building a better social media for everyone. I'm already on Mastodon and now with reddit going rogue I figured I could use the reach of tedd.it to help more people find their home here.
And for those who asked: why Lemmy? It's just my personal preference. Kbin is also great! I just found Lemmy more user friendly personally. But hey, that's the beauty of the Fediverse: we're all allies here ❤️
Thanks again for the spotlight. Feel free to ask any questions you might have! Cheers ✌️
Thank you!
People like you make the internet a better place.
Thanks a lot. I mostly used tedd.it over the last year maybe more. Was always more stable than teddit.net. is there a way to thank you for your work? E.g. buymeacoffee or something like that?
I also have a question: Do you think self hosted teddit will continue to work for the next years? As I understand it it dosent reach the api limit and is therefore still useable.
Thank you! I appreciate the support. I don't have anything like buymeacoffee but I still really appreciate it.
As for self hosting, under the current API terms it should be fine as long as you are the only user and use an API key. You're still likely to encounter some 429s but it won't cripple your experience entirely.
@Opalium Thank you a lot!
I’ll stick with kbin, but we’re all friends here. 👍
That's the neat part: We're all browsing the same content.
People who call this whole thing complicated are just, I dunno, incapable of understanding the concept of logging in? It doesn't matter what door you go in, it's all (mostly) the same room.
It's actually a copy of the original room, and there are invisible goblins synchronising all objects in the rooms so that it looks like the same room. They are also moving mannequins so that they match the movements of all the people in the other rooms.
To us it looks and feels like the same room with the same objecs and same people, so it doesn't really matter.
But sometimes an admin might order that the goblins must not sync one specific room anymore. Then you start to notice differences depending on which door (=room) you actually use.
There's a difference between "incapable of understanding" and "doesn't have enough background information to understand." Are there people who can't understand certain tech concepts? Absolutely. But there are a lot more people who just miss the first rung on the ladder, and can't make it to the top. They can understand when they get the explanation from the ground up, but until then, they're stuck.
I see it happen a lot when tech people try to explain something that is brand new to the listener, because when you are already able to understand something at a high level, you forget to mention the first several rungs. It's usually a great explanation, it's just not an explanation the person on the ground can use.
...also, I don't think it's failure to understand login when every instance asks for a separate login if you don't navigate there through your own instance. It's a misunderstanding that results from experiencing the fediverse without understanding how it works, not a failure to grasp an abstract concept.
why kbin over lemmy? havent tested it out much.
Kbin includes some mastodon/twitter-like functionality. It also makes public what you vote for and the interface is subjectively nicer. It also have PWA support for the main websites.
However, it doesn't have app support right now. There's significantly more development on that front with Lemmy.
While I am posting from a lemmy account (because I didn't know about kbin when I made it) if I was to host one of the two it would be kbin. The reason is that lemmy has some hardcoded moderation things inside it that I disapprove of. I believe I should be able to say anything I want without fear of being censored on my own self hosted instance and this comes from a leftist, I don't want to use bad words to insult people, but if I want to use them in a different context I want to be able to. If I see an argument between a bigot and a fellow lgbtq and the bigot calls my comrade with a slur I want to be able to describe the situation using the exact words used. I think maybe it's a cultural difference thing, where I live using slurs in a context where we describe a situation rather than for insulting someone it's not seen as a bad thing. We don't give those words so much power and importance to the point that even just saying the words makes people gasp. I believe that censoring some words by default without even considering the context they are being used in doesn't help, I believe it just gives the words more power while we should aim to take power away from them.
Also kbin has a much prettier UI in my opinion.
For me personally, it's the cleaner (stock) UI
Found it first.
To me, Kbin isn't really ready to be used by the average person. I get a lot of error messages and many communities are missing, no matter which Kbin instance I choose. I'll move to Kbin when it's a little more fleshed out. For now, I'll stick to Lemmy.
I haven't had any issues.
Unfortunate but inevitable given the API changes. I only used teddit for a short time to check on a few subreddits during the protest/blackout period. This really marks the end of me visiting reddit in any form or fashion now.
Yay for the lemm.ee mention!
uh oh, i want to kinda keep lemm.ee on the down low cuz it's awesome and I don't want more traffic lol
this is just one of the instances
there are many more instances according to https://farside.link/ (which is a thing that will automatically redirect you to one of them: https://farside.link/teddit/ )
so by using this, you help reduce the load on individual instance, resulting in less "too many requests" errors for everyone.
Thanks for introducing me to farside!
The problem still stands, I tried just now a few of those randomly redirected instances, and they're all still giving Error 429 (Rate Limited). Reddit is on a horrible war path here and realistically the only way out is to just cut oneself off now.
mlmym.org mimics oldreddit. I was turned on to it this morning, please spread the word. It's like going home. it pulls from whatever lemmy you're using so you don't have to worry about losing your stuff.
Tried it last few days and I kind of like it a lot.
Yeah, I am really impressed about it, at first I was thinking about what the use of it would be, kind of wouldn't make much of a difference. Then I tried it out, and it just feels like home, it's so much more compact, I really love it, and I've used it for a couple of weeks by now :)
Oh come on, I just started using it two days ago! Libreddit often doesn't work these days.
Libreddit is shut down. They are trying, but it doesn’t seem they have much of a plan.
Aw dang I just set up an instance of libreddit for myself a few days ago. Oh well it is what it is
You can self host Libreddit. Works great that way.
Yep you can even set up your Android phone as its own server. Been working like a charm for me.
https://github.com/pixelpassport/snoodroid_server/blob/main/Guide.md
Ngl that lemmy home page is offputting to non-techy users
Yes, lemmy does not work for non-techy stuff. Sometimes I want to look up random stuff like getting the best sim plan for international travel or what are the best apps for tracking weight lifting workouts. That kind of stuff is not available if the mainstream is not here. And thus reddit is unfortunately still needed.
That's not strictly true, now. I found a good fountain pen community, and a few for knitting and embroidery, among other analog interests. Not everything is here, but the non-tech stuff is starting to trickle in.
what are the best apps for tracking weight lifting workouts
I've been looking for one as well. I've been using Progression for a few years and it has been decent.
It's frustrating when so often techy people produce something but don't go the slight extra distance to anticipate the needs of normal people getting inducted into using the software. You see it all the time.
Every Linux distro until pretty damn recently...
You can first build something you like using yourself, but at some point you should start holding it under the nose of various well-meaning not-so-techy people and watch how they try to use it.
The join-lemmy one? Yeah, that looks straight up aimed at coders, like the landing page of a framework
So is Lemmy going to stick? Have daily users gone down? I hate to say I stepped back to Reddit because there just isn’t enough content on Lemmy for my taste yet.
Then advertise and market lemmy. Not by literally going on the street with cart boards “use lemmy Plox”, like even sending a link from Lemmy makes Someone question “why everybody is into Lemmy lately? What is it?
That’s how I found out about Reddit anyways. Don’t underestimate word of mouth.
Well, I'm doing my best to get the !openstreetmap@lemmy.ml community started. Once there is enough activity here, the critical mass becomes self-reinforcing and it takes off.
And it's not as if all of Reddit will switch over right away - Twitter is still somewhat alive too; but Mastodon gained enough momentum now to actually matter and to be at a sustainable level.
That is the logic most people confuse with socially-focused spaces like the fediverse ecosystem. The point is not to create monopolies but to have a diverse information system so no one node controls the flows. Co-existence is the word. The tough bit is to create a space big enough to create healthy information flow without being too big as to monopolize the neighborhood.
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If you don't move then you'll never get more activity, people will move eventually if their favorite apps move to Lemmy or Kbin.
My guess right now is that it won’t be as big as Reddit. I think we’re in an environment where the network effect is so strong that it is extremely difficult for big players to fail. The type of failure and migration we saw from Digg to Reddit doesn’t seem possible now.
But it might be big enough to be a good replacement for more hardcore users. I personally am using both and Lemmy is maybe 40% of my usage and growing.
tedd.it is not the only teddit instance, nor even one i knew, with the main one being teddit.net. that being said its heavily unusable in its current state without running your own personal instance to stay under the api limits https://codeberg.org/teddit/teddit ... that being said, screw that noise, im here instead.
Yup! I don't speak for all of teddit, just my instance. Although many of the other hosts I talked to feel the same - at the end of the day, the API changes don't leave us much of a choice. Public instances are practically impossible now.
Duh
I wonder if it’s time for someone to spin up a site like https://killedbygoogle.com/ except for Reddit. Maybe killedbyspez.com or killedbyreddit.com?
Is it weird that before getting to the comments I had this exact same thought too?
Genuinely curious how many apps have been killed by this Reddit cull...
Edit: I think it should just be called spezzed.com and list everything that got 'spezzed'
Teddit went out in style with that message. Thank you dev, I used teddit often. Forgive me keeping the bookmark on my toolbar just for a few more days.
Thank you! ❤️ I'm not the dev of teddit, I just run this instance, but it still means a lot to me. I hope you found it useful while it lasted!
Hope that anyone who was using it and not switching to lemmy is encouraged to do so now.
Too bad as I just found it a week ago, but totally understandable.
I have been using teddit and libreddit for quite some time. Way better than reddit's trash website