A 23 year-old seems to have written their own wikipedia article about going to every spacecamp and wanting to be an astronaut when they grow up.
A 23 year-old seems to have written their own wikipedia article about going to every spacecamp and wanting to be an astronaut when they grow up.
Alyssa Carson (born March 10, 2001) is an American space enthusiast who has attended numerous space camps and has visited every NASA visitor center.[1] She has been profiled by a variety of news outlets, public interest publications, and interview shows as an unofficial astronaut-in-training.
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While frequently described by the media as an "astronaut in training",[20][10] Carson is not affiliated with any national space program.[21][22] NASA has publicly stated that the organization "has no official ties to Alyssa Carson",[22] and separately that "although Ms. Carson uses ‘NASA' in her website name and Twitter and Instagram handles, we’re not affiliated at all."[23] In 2019 Newsweek corrected a headline that had implied that Carson's training was affiliated with NASA.[9] Snopes.com also has dedicated a page to clarify such claims, which says: "Carson is not in training with—or being prepped by—NASA to become an astronaut, or to take part in the first human mission to Mars."[24]
I need one of these for myself. I know hella rocks and will probably be the lead of the smithsonian or something if I become a geologist someday.
edit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alyssa-carson-87b874152 Can someone with a Linkedin account confirm that she doesn't actually have any work experience whatsoever? I think that part might be hidden for me but I only see bullshit awards, her own org about wanting to be an astronaut when she grows up, volunteering one day per year at space camp, and inspirational articles from 2018 about how she wants to be an astronaut when she wants to grow up. There's no "internship at [legitimate company]" which is a required class for any BS degree at my university.
What, I thought we were pro-lying-in-your-resume in this website? We're just witnessing someone taking it to the logical extreme.
I'm absolutely pro-lying on your resume and just did it with great success myself. Like I said in the top post, I wish I had an article describing me as a future geologist so the Smithsonian might hire me.
I just think it's funny that it's the ultimate space kid written as a serious professional biography, with NASA having to repeatedly deny that the space kid has any affiliation with them. It's a "How about you salute a future soldier" dynamic turned up to 11.
She is the dawn of a new type of gal, the large adult faildaughter.
I'm pro lying on your resume but I dunno, set up a substack or something. I'm not saying Wikipedia doesn't have issues but normalizing abusing it for resume padding doesn't seem great
this is cool actually lolI agree.
As of 2023, she received her bachelor's degree in astrobiology from the Florida Institute of Technology.
wtf...
What is an astrobiology degree?
yeah, no shit it is. FIT is like twice the size of my high school, so i'm guessing the entire cohort+alumni is like 3 people. i would feel so weird applying for jobs after that. like, "yeah, i can totally be a lab tech at your nutrition testing company. i studied Astrobiology at the Beverly Crusher College of Medicine and did my research project on ET's metabolism and gut flora response to Elliot's Reece's Pieces." i thought the whole point of an undergraduate/bachelor's was to general to a larger field or broadly interdisciplinary. like, kudos for knowing what you want to do since the age of 6, but goddam.
Biological functions in low gravity senarios. There is a practical aspect of that in monitoring humans in space and also doing biological expirements and searching for life in out of Earth environments. Watch China for that space since this country ruined the Shuttle program and Mr. Most Divorced Disowned Dad is more obsessed with curating the next generation of fascists and locking us in a Kessler Syndrome than evolving humanity now.
It would be extremely funny if he tried to actually launch a Mars mission and just after clearing the atmosphere his ship gets shotgunned by a cloud of his stupid little satellites.
It's possible that it's interdisciplinary program, like a planetary science and biochem double major. My school had a lot of really unfortunately named "specialties", which involved both a lot of breadth and depth in two fields, but because of the naming sounded like weirdly specialized programs. But also graduates are encouraged to list the degree as a major + minor to employers.
This is basically it. Astrobiology is actually a course in a fair few places, a friend of mine has a degree in it, and you're right, it's relatively new and varied, but it's basically planetary science, biochem and environmental sciences. No it is not drawing theoretical aliens.
yeah, there seems to be a lot of strange moves in undergraduate program development with creating "grabby" program titles that sound cool and have some curious career tracking baked in, because we all know the most important part of a program title is being able to rapidly and cleanly articulate what your career will look like to your parents and what sort of salary it will command.
The average Astrobiologist in the US makes $143,786.
it is absolutely wild that a whole bachelor's degree exists entirely on a hypothetical, the existence of life outside earth, with very little to even work on. maybe i'm just being a hater, and i do love hypothesizing about potential life in space, but genuinely what is there to study or do as an astrobiologist aside from spectroscopic analysis of exoplanetary atmospheres that is already being done by many astronomers. all we really have is a few planets where there MIGHT be some molecules that usually originate from from life on earth specifically and the previous existence of water on mars, of which neither are conclusive of anything. for other natural sciences such as biology, physics, or chemistry, there will never not be a time when the laws of physics (on earth, at least) stop applying suddenly, or the laws that govern chemical reactions, or the functioning of life because these are tangible things you can observe. even specific sub-fields within them are still studying specific phenomena we know happen. what is there to observe for something that we know very little about and probably will always know very little about.
I have a degree in astrophysics, so here’s my perspective.
Whether, and how much, a field is speculative has little scientific or practical bearing on whether it is worth studying. I’ll throw out the obvious reason first: you don’t know what you don’t know. Much of science lies in pushing boundaries even when there is no specific discovery in mind.
Astronomy as a whole has always been challenged for relevance to “real” studies here on Earth. Many people think that astronomy is a waste of money.
Was it pointless to send multiple spacecraft, including COBE, WMAP, and Planck, just to figure out how uniform is the cosmic microwave background radiation? Or to devote similar efforts to researching the flatness of the Universe? To image black holes and measure gravitational waves? These things are about as speculative as astrobiology, but they sound more “serious.”
I believe all of these things are important to study because the laws of physics are, as far as we can tell, the same everywhere in the universe. Therefore space is simply another laboratory in which we study the Earth; an invaluable one, actually, because there is far more exotic physics happening around galactic nuclei (for example) than we can ever come close to simulating in a laboratory on Earth.
Astrobiology is not merely looking at spectra. The spectra are only an indirect measurement. The difficulty lies in understanding the non-biological processes which could produce a signature that otherwise appears biological in origin. Until you’re holding a little green alien, you can’t really prove that a measurement is definitely life, but with solid science you can be pretty damn sure that there is no other explanation.
I saw one space chemist describe their job as discovering everything that isn't alien life. We have a recent, huge, and growing pile of exoplanet data which is going to show different chemical signatures. There's practical scientific value in finding the interesting candidates and for narrowing down what could make those compounds under wildly different conditions that an Earth-centric chemist isn't specially trained in. I think that apart from the microgravity effects on earth biology studies, there's value in understanding how those different conditions would or wouldn't allow for an atmospheric signature to be biological. If it's something benign we didn't rule out, that's a 10+ year space mission or telescope time wasted when we could have been replicating those chemical conditions in labs here.
Broad and interdisciplinary should be the goal. But I think we're moving toward a world where people will need a B.S. in HR to get an entry level job in human resources.
You're being overly optimistic, pretty sure HR jobs have needed a post-grad certificate + work experience for a while now. One of the reasons there were so many recruiters for a while is people viewed working as a recruiter as a way to get an entry level job in HR.
yeah, i can totally be a lab tech at your nutrition testing company. i studied Astrobiology at the Beverly Crusher College of Medicine and did my research project on ET's metabolism and gut flora response to Elliot's Reece's Pieces.
new site tagline please
12 languages
She remains the only person to attend every NASA space camp offered including those in Turkey and Canada.
She literally went to a 6 day summer camp in Canada and you want to mock her intellect? She knows Turkish space facts.
i can confirm she is enlisted in the space janissariesHave you seen Turkish Star Wars? Space is zany if you're Turkish and proper training is essential.
you know one of those is Klingon.
At least one. There are dialects after all.
There have been multiple votes to keep this article around, the majority of voting users voted to keep this multiple times over a period of years. Several users pop up in this debate multiple times.
This article might be the best argument I have ever seen against wikipedia.
How? lol, it must be an inside joke. I’m sure even wiki-jannies have a sense of humor when they’re on break at Eglin Air Force Base.
(For re-nomination for speedy deletion due to WP:G11.) This page is not unambiguously promotional because it does not list any achievements of Carson's that are unsourced, it does not advertise for any product/service, and it has no external links except for the official website in the infobox (so cannot be external link spamming). Per WP:WEIGHT, "If a viewpoint is in the majority, then it should be easy to substantiate it with reference to commonly accepted reference texts". Everything is cited. The sources back up all claims made in the article. Also, the article was not intended to be promotional. I have no connection to Carson and merely made the article because I had seen a plethora of articles about her (ie. more than enough to meet WP:GNG). To the best of my human ability, the article is written with NPOV. Furthermore, even if the article was written in a promotional tone, the arguments I have just made show that the article is not so overly promotional that it could not be fixed. And according to WP:G11, "If a subject is notable and the content could plausibly be replaced with text written from a neutral point of view, this is preferable to deletion." Samsmachado (talk) 18:19, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
lol@the talk section:
Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because the reason for the deletion no longer applies (the article was formerly deleted because Carson had not done anything yet) hence the nomination for speedy deletion under WP:G4 does not hold.
Evidence:
the article now reflects Carson's entrepreneurial endeavours, book, and motivational speaking
the current article easily meets GNG
article has added several sources that didn't exist at the time of the previous AFD discussion which shows sustained media coverage for over 2 years
Samsmachado (talk) 16:40, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
People are so uptight.
the User who created the page has made dozens of pages on canadian women, and more or less, someone who makes the news qualifies for a wiki entry.
funny that some dork in the talk page is whinging that their page on them was deleted, sorry some young woman has a wikipedia article and you dont, have a cry, its good for you.
Pete does it to seize power and to kill more dogs. This lady just wants to go to space. Full respect.
But if he called himself Mayor Pete and gave speeches about how he hopes to be the first mayor to become president before running for mayor.
i need one of these for myself
this is how we will kill web3.0
everybody is gonna get their own wikipedia page
nobody will do anything on the internet ever again
I'll have you know that I had the third most popular youtube video under #Albania. Maybe it's a joke for you to deserve a wikipedia page, but I've done something noteworthy.
Girls rock
Oh wait I thought a child wrote about wanting to be an astronaut at 23, this is actually kinda weird and not super cute like I thought
Yes
It definitely seems like she's trying to will being an astronaut into fruition (PADI, skydiving, pursuing PhD, etc.). Idk how successful that will be for her, but she's years from even being eligible to apply. I know some people that have had their references checked for astronaut applications, and they have all of that stuff and several years of experience in the engineering industry.
About the LinkedIn section, from what I can see the only “traditional” work experience listed is modeling/ad/marketing partnerships with multiple brands, most are brands I don’t know from the top of my head. Taking it at face value, it’s a pretty good start on that field, and she is definitely doing the most to prop her up as an inevitable astronaut. Who knows, she might get access to some tangible opportunities by pure pressure/exposure.
Even that just strikes me as grifting on par with the TedX speeches about how she wants to be an astronaut when she grows up and the book about how to be an astronaut when you grow up. There was another person on the sidebar whose bio started out "Aspiring astronaut | Former intern at Boeing and NASA" which is what you'd expect from anyone remotely serious about it.
Oh it absolutely reeks of grift, I agree.
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Are we doing thinly veiled ableism again or something?
Also seems like she's doing a legit STEM PhD program, good chance she comes out of it having pushed forward humanity's knowledge and understanding of the world
happybadger are you upset with your life? You make fun of and get angry at the most random normal people instead of like, actual bourgeois monsters or serial killers or rapists or something
Let Ms. Carson have little a space, as a treat
born 2001
Damn, born too late for the golden age of [wo]maned space missions, cursed to live in the era of mostly robotic missions (because robots are more capable now and budgets are less generous), will most likely die days before the first space colonization initiatives test their first space habitat.
