Democrats who attack the rich do better in elections. The party should take notice
Democrats who attack the rich do better in elections. The party should take notice | Jared Abbott and Bhaskar Sunkara
I agree. If a democrat ran up and garroted Jeff Bezos, or went all Tanya Harding on Elon Musk's knees, I would vote for them.
Literally, if a politician was imprisoned for firebombing a billionaires house I would be intrigued by their campaign.
nah, they're gonna make fun of Trump for being broke with childish nicknames instead. sink down to his level while making him sound more relatable to all the broke people they want to vote for them. sometimes i think they're trying to lose.
Generally speaking, they do want to lose. If they actually ran on their universally popular policies, they'd win majorities large enough to where they wouldn't have excuses to not enact their legislative mandate, which is at odds with what their corporate donors want.
This is exactly it. The only thing they truly run on is vote for us or it'll be even worse. They say nice things, but they have no intention of enacting most of them.
Anyone from poor decaying rural America has had enough conversations with republicans with oddly class related philosophies to feel this comment hard
Their campaign is literally "It'll be worse under the other guy."
Losing now is the best way for them to win in four years. It is how it has been for decades. When's the last time one party held the presidency for two consecutive candidates? It's a neverending metronome, except the needle moves more to the right each time.
Assuming that we'll have fair elections in 4 years if Trump wins may prove to be one of the worst mistakes this country's voters have ever made.
Dude we're unprecedented territory and that is basically a gambler's fallacy. There's absolutely no reason to believe that the patterns of the past will continue. For example, Biden already disrupted the power of the Incumbent president and ousted Donald short of 2 terms, which itself is a rarity not seen since Carter.
"Worse than the other guy" is basically all that people can take at this point, and I think the best argument going into the election. It works because it's one of the only arguments against valid criticisms of Biden. "Yes, he is old; but he is better than the other guy for x, y, and z." Nothing wrong with this strategy.
I do agree that Democrats need to punch back harder, though.
When's the last time one party held the presidency for two consecutive candidates?
Obama? Then immediately before that W? Then immediately before that Clinton?
In the last 50 years only Bush Sr and Trump have served single terms.
2 term presidents: Obama 2009-2017, G.W. Bush 2001-2009, Clinton 1993-2009. so every president for 3 decades except Bush and Trump.
It’s not that they are just doing childish nicknames, they are making all sorts of statements every day about concrete goals, values, and things they want to fix or make better, it’s just that the only things you notice are things like the childish nicknames because… that’s the sort of thing that grabs people’s attention which is the reason they are trying out that tactic as well!
You yourself probably don’t slog through the boring articles, interviews, press statements, and so on, where they just present plans and ideas rather than headline grabbers. If you did, you wouldn’t paint such a simplistic picture, or wonder if it must be some conspiracy involving thousands of people to purposely lose.
I love how the post I saw immediately before this was about Biden's new Trump insult, 'Broke Don'. So insult your rivals by calling them poor, definitely a good way to relate to struggling voters.
Yeah well Biden doesn't really need to appeal to liberals and progressives when it comes to Trump. However making his idiotic base doubt him by calling me poor little bitch will definitely weaken Trump's position.
For 8 years now his base has been firmly convinced that the mainstream establishment is an enemy of Trump and 'the people'. From what I've seen any words against Trump coming from establishment liberals is more likely to entrench Trumps support than weaken it.
However making his idiotic base doubt him by calling me poor little bitch will definitely weaken Trump's position.
Thanks for taking one for the team, poor little bitch.
"Broke Don" is a masterpiece.
Consume the wealthy.
Eat the rich.
I keep seeing the press wheeling out example of "the rich" like somebody on £100k who can barely afford their mortgage, like it's my fucking fault they can't live within their means.
Do what the rest of us do, tighten our belts and deal with it. Don't come to me with a sob story about your mortgage on a 4 bedroom detached Surrey house when there's people who can barely afford rent to live in what was once somebody's kitchen.
Middle class is not the same as the rich. Trying to get various groups of not rich people against each other has been a time tested tactic to keep everyone from acting against the rich. First it was race but now it's trying to put the rural vs urban, the less fortunate vs the slightly less fortunate, union vs non union, etc.
Totally agree. Somebody who makes 100k aren't the problem at all, its the people who make salaries with at least a couple of more zeros added to the end. The people that OP should be mad at aren't ever struggling to pay a bill.
£100k per year is not middle class, it's the top 3% of the country.
I grew up middle class, my family are lawyers, high level civil servants, software engineers. I don't know anyone who earns £100k.
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This is a composition effect. Democratic candidates who run for safer, more left-wing constituencies feel free to propose more radical left-wing policies, especially if their main threats are other democrats during primaries. They then go on to win because they're not running in competitive elections. You can use the same reasoning to conclude that Republicans who attack abortion and socialism do better in elections.
I don't buy it. Red states hate billionaires even more than blue states. Centrist Democrats have nothing to offer to Republican voters to change their minds. Progressives speak directly to the economic issues that plague red states.
I mean, red states elected a billionaire because he was a billionaire.
But Centrist Democrats think that if they just kick progressives harder, they'll gain the favor of the three remaining moderate Republicans.
Red states hate billionaires even more than blue states
(citation needed)
I think they hate the "generic billionaire", but are they any actual billionaires they hate?
Doesn't matter if they don't actually do anything though...
But they won’t, because once they get into Congress they get just as tied to big money as any other politician. Plus, there all too busy trying to chase after Republican voters, even though they’ll never, ever vote for a Democrat.
Why multiple mics from the same station?
A few things, more exposure/advertising space, and redundancy, especially in a time where mics were really inconsistent, if one mic goes down, you have another still recording.
So they can broadcast in stereo
I need my binaural audio of a political speech so I can hear them lying in dolby 7.1
Same reason they have multiple camera crews these days, I would think? 🤔
also, what's an MBS. I guess I could google it but I'm on mobile and lazy.
Til
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Broadcasting_System
The Mutual Broadcasting System (commonly referred to simply as Mutual; sometimes referred to as MBS, Mutual Radio or the Mutual Radio Network) was an American commercial radio network in operation from 1934 to 1999. In the golden age of U.S. radio drama, Mutual was best known as the original network home of The Lone Ranger and The Adventures of Superman and as the long-time radio residence of The Shadow. For many years, it was a national broadcaster for Major League Baseball (including the All-Star Game and World Series), the National Football League, and Notre Dame Fighting Irish football. From the mid-1930s and until the retirement of the network in 1999, Mutual ran a highly respected news service accompanied by a variety of popular commentary shows. In the late 1970s, Mutual pioneered the nationwide late night call-in talk radio program, introducing the country to Larry King and later, Jim Bohannon.
What's up with the thread? An I the only one seeing almost every comment at 0 net votes?
Actually it seems to be every thread on lemmy.world. Hmm.
Not seeing it on my end. I am using Voyager on a sh.it just.works account.
rip mbs
Going to read the article now, but before doing so I'm wondering if they controlled for the fact that safer seats are more likely to be in a position to take stronger positions on it, or might be forced to take stronger positions on it because the primary threat is during the primary.