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Arizona Republicans Advance Bill To Have Public Schools "Post And Discuss" Ten Commandments In Classrooms - Joe.My.God.

www.joemygod.com Arizona Republicans Advance Bill To Have Public Schools "Post And Discuss" Ten Commandments In Classrooms - Joe.My.God.

Courthouse News reports: Arizona’s House Education Committee advanced a bill Tuesday that would allow public school teachers and administrators to post and discuss the Ten Commandments in the classroom. State Senator Anthony Kern [photo], the bill’s sponsor, says the Ten Commandments shaped the coun...

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Courthouse News reports: Arizona’s House Education Committee advanced a bill Tuesday that would allow public school teachers and administrators to post and discuss the Ten Commandments in the classroom. State Senator Anthony Kern [photo], the bill’s sponsor, says the Ten Commandments shaped the country’s heritage. “Our history is the Ten Commandments,” the Republican from Glendale …

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If I was a teacher in AZ I would lead in with how the story of moses was stolen from the neo-assyrian 7th century BC origin story of Sargon of Akkad or Sargon the great who is said to have been the king of the first empire in the world when he started invading and conquering Sumerian city states in the 23rd and 24th century BC.
- Add that to the fact that the Israelites were never in Egypt and you have proof it's all bullshit.
- Or how the very first commandment ("You shall have no other gods before me") points at the early Henotheism in Judasim ("we accept that other gods exist, but this one god is our main one"). It became monotheist ("our god is the only one that exists") with Zoroastrian influence from Persia during the second temple period.
  So many directions to go with actual history.

And this is why I praise Jesus for The Satanic Temple.
"Little Jimothy, what did you learn at school today?"
'Well this week we've been learning about the ten commandments and today we did the satanic ones - you know my friend Sam who is a boy even though he wasn't born one? It turns out Satan says he's cool being himself.'

Did they ever read the ten comandments? I'm not religious myself vut I think one of them says something "you shall not lie". Maybe Republicsns should start with actually abiding to it first...
- don't forget thou shall not steal.
  
  Come on now it was those damn democrats who did all the stealing they stole the election, they still all the documents and they stole my wife and kids from me and forced them to move out of state and now I'm on the no fly list because of those damn lazy stealing democrats that control everything and made my wife divorce me and take full custody so that's why I tried to take my country back at the ~~insurrection~~ protest at the Capitol building for my boy Donnie.... I love you Donald Trump...
  /S
- Thou shall not kill
  ..... makes you wonder about a few things in American culture ....
  gun ownership, which causes deaths by people in the thousands every year (intentional and accidental and self inflicted), basically most personal firearms are meant for one thing ... to kill people.
  military industrial complex which is the vehicle and cause of mass human death around the world
  death penalty, if your Bible says do not kill, why do you have laws that say you should kill
  
  Repukelicans are hypocrites
  
  Technically, as I understand it, that is a mistranslation. It should be "Thou shalt not commit murder". Executions and killing in war are perfectly okay with the god of the Bible. It's only *illegal *killing that you should refrain from. In fact, there are numerous places in the Bible where the readers are told to kill people in god's name. So you can get right out there and start killing men, women, and babies with no worry that you'll go to hell for it.
  
  Car-centric infrastructure that kills tens of thousands every year
- They know exactly what the term commandments are: a way to control people
- So when you pay for sex and also make her sign an NDA is it not "adultery" anymore?
  
  Don't be stupid, God has good lawyers that can get around any NDA
- Wait until they read the second one "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water"

So, it gets challenged, found as unconstitutional, is struck down, and gives the GOP another "I'm the victim" talking point.
- Oh yah, you betcha
- I’m too lazy to change ‘her’ to ‘him’, and I also have no idea how to do that. So…my bad

Seven tenets as well, right?
- Not according to this bill but if it passes then I'm sure we can have that conversation then.
- We do have a temple chapter in tucson

State Senator Anthony Kern [photo], the bill’s sponsor, says the Ten Commandments shaped the country’s heritage. “Our history is the Ten Commandments,”
I'm guessing he's never read the Constitution?
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
would bet money he doesn't even know what the 10 commandments are

I thought they were no longer under the old law. Whatever, they cannot even agree on what they believe anyway.
- Yep christ threw out the old law and gave us one to follow: love thy neighbor. But clearly it only applies to "Christians"

A quick rundown of the Ten Commandments, for those who never went to Sunday School:
Four are theocratic authoritarianism
Three are obvious crimes that appear in law codes the world over, even without the influence of Judaism
One is useful in some civil proceedings, but most modern criminal codes don't label it a felony
One is okay as general life advice, but isn't universally applicable, and it has weird theocratic qualifier
One is a thought crime
In summary, not the best basis for a society.

Please donate and support (if you can) the Freedom From Religion Foundation and the Satanic Temple. Both work to combat this type of shit and the Satanic Temple has nothing to do with devil worship.

Isn't it funny how they never want to post the beatitudes.

PLEASE someone Shoot Up A School so I can Pretend to care about the CONSTITUTION!

I think its going to be great the kids talk about the ten commandments and the seven tenets. Not sure if anyone else will join in.
- Hopefully we can get the 9 Satanic Statements and 11 Rules of the Earth as well.
- Fuck off, much as you’d like the USA to be a Christian theocracy, the rest of us aren’t on board with that.
  
  Do a quick web search of "the seven tenets".
- 5 Pillars of Islam maybe?

- Previously temp banned for advocating violence, now permabanned for more of the same plus ban evasion.

Sure!
Let's start with why the first four deal exclusively with the Jewish faith and a clearly extremely selfish diety, then that you have to listen to your parents.
Then at number SIX, don't kill people.
Also note that outlawing sexual assault doesn't make the list. On the other hand, neither does anything about not allowing same-sex marriage.

Why wait for classroom debate?
"Which is the most important?"
There is a solid theological answer to that question within the context of Christianity, which is that there are REALLY only two of them.
If they say they all equally important: light them up for how fucking poorly they understand their own holy book.
If they are consistent and answer 2, then why you proposing a bill for 10?
- Well, obviously, the most important one is the second... the commandment to bear arms and form a well regurgitated militia.
  
  "And Jesus spake unto the crowd : 'Verily I say to thee, bring forth every bear from within the forest and removeth their arms. Once you have completeth this task, attach AR-15s in their place. Do this, in remembrance of me'"

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