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Sjmarf @sh.itjust.works

11mo ago

Is this a Nut?

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Rust is more like: unless you can mathematically prove to me that this is equivalent to a nut there is no ducking way I'll ever let you compiled this.
- And hot take, but that's good. I'm absolutely stupid enough for idiot gloves like that.
- And then still segfault
  https://github.com/Speykious/cve-rs/blob/main/src/segfault.rs
  
  If you can make safe Rust segfault you're doing something wrong.
  
  Have you really used Rust or are you spreading FUD? I have not managed to cause even a single segfault in my 8 years of writing Rust code. Nor have I heard anyone else complaining about it, other than deliberately as proof of concept.
  
  It won't segfault but it'll absolutely panic over an unwrap at some point.
  
  Why are you getting downwoted man, getting segfaults in safe rust is on compiler not us. When you segfault in C and such it's almost always your fault, if you manage to do that in rust it's a bug in compiler.

StackOverflow: Question closed as duplicate. Someone else already asked whether or not something is a nut.
- "Question closed as duplicate"
  The question it's a duplicate of: "How to programmatically prove a hotdog is a sandwich?"
- Seriously, i just googled how much energy would be needed to put 1Kg in LEO. Ofc there's a StakOverflow to it asking the same question and none of 4 answers answer the question and one is like "This seems like a complicated way of doing it. Instead of asking the minimum energy...".
- 1 answer: use the fucking search
  
  First search result brings you to this answer.
- "It's 2024! Why are people still trying to classify nuts? Just use some expensive cloud solution that doesn't really solve your problem"

Java: "Sorry, but the developers of Peanut didn't declare it to implement the Crackable interface, even though it has all the relevant methods, so if you want to treat it like a nut your choices are write a wrapper class or call those methods using Reflections"
- Swift’s extensions system has spoiled me, and I feel the pain of this whenever I have to write Java
  
  You should take a look at kotlin, pretty similar to swift and fully interoperable with java.
  
  Ditto, but Rust's traits. God those are so fun. It's like duck typing a la Python but you can just slap whatever methods you want on a foreign type without worrying about breaking anything because they're only visible to the current crate (or other crates that import the Trait)

C# should actually be "What Java said, except it's ICrackable".
- No, actually C#'s answer should be: "What Java said - hold on, what Python said sounds good too, and C++'s stuff is pretty cool too - let's go with all of the above."
  C#, or as I like to call it "the Borg of programming languages".
  
  I got my first software developer role last year and it was the first time I’d written C#, I was more TypeScript. Now we use both but I must say I really like C# now that I’m used to it.
- Would the equivalent Rust trait be Crack?
  
  AsCrack

In Java, it's not called the Crackable interface.
It's the Nuttable interface.
- Actually it's AbstractNutAndShellsFactory
- Provided your method specifies a strongly bound type you can ensure that you get your nut.
  undefined
  
  void dischargeNut(T extends Nut) { ... }
  
  strongly bound you say?
- How do I know if something is Nuttable?

I am static_casting the nut_t*. Pray I don't static_cast it any further.
- reinterpret_cast<int*>(&a_nut)
  I like to live dangerously.

C can STRUCTurise classes tho
- I want my vs code to look like this
- Yeah, you can technically write object oriented code in C. Or any other language. Just that actual OOP languages provide a nicer syntax and compile time checks.
  Rust is kind of a good example of this. It's technically not an object oriented language, but the trait system brings it close.
  
  Time for Rust++
- But, why?
  
  most C programs are just C++ programs with extra steps if you look at them close enough
- Ah yes, what C needs is VTABLEs.

Ruby: No, it has been redefined as the number 5 so buckle your seatbelts, kiddos, cuz shit's about to get wild!

"What Java said."
Okay, that one made me chuckle.

All those memes picturing C++ as unsafe and unstable yet the server that serves these memes is running mostly C/C++ and has an uptime of months.
- Lemmy is written in Rust. There might be bits of C at the periphery behind bindings.
  
  And linux is written in C.
  
  Lemmy is written in Rust.
  Wow, way to ruin my joke.
- True, but that's partly because the Linux is beyond mature, and you can ferret out a lot of bugs with millions of users over decades.
- Also they're always treating C++ like it's some arcane enterprise variant that uses 1990s C++
  Using modern C++ you can write much cleaner, more usable, and really safe code
  
  Having a thorough process and an engineer approach in software development is also pretty handy. There weren’t many bugs in the AGC. Yet it was programmed mostly in assembly and people had no trouble trusting it with their life.
- yet the server that serves these memes is running mostly C/C++
  Time to rewrite it in Rust!
  /ducksandruns
  
  if i remember lemmy is written in rust
- Lemmy is rust and it's alternative sublinks is java...your comment has now power here

Excel: 12th of Nutuary 1970

C++: Nuh, uh ...
c++

template <typename T> concept Crackable = requires(T obj) { { obj.crack() }; }; auto crack(Crackable auto& nut) { nut.crack(); }
- This is dangerous. The object might not have the crack() method, and this bloats the compiled size by a lot if you use it with different types. There's also no reason I can see to use concepts here. The saner way would probably be to use inheritance and objects to mimic Java interfaces.
  
  This is dangerous
  Well, they say you do have to be over 18 to use Concepts

I just dabbled in javascript again, and that description is spot on!
console.log('javascript operators are b' + 'a' + + 'a' + 'a');
- BaNaNa
  
  Terracotta
- The only reason people use JS is because it's the defacto language of browsers. As a language it's dogshit filled with all kinds of unpleasant traps.
  Here is a fun one I discovered the other day:
  undefined
  
  new Date('2022-10-9').toUTCString() === 'Sat, 08 Oct 2022 23:00:00 GMT' new Date('2022-10-09').toUTCString() === 'Sun, 09 Oct 2022 00:00:00 GMT'
  So padding a day of the month with a 0 or not changes the result by 1 hour. Every browser does the same so I assume this is a legacy thing. It's supposed to be padded but any sane language would throw an exception if it was malformed. Not JavaScript.
- I can‘t believe you’ve done this
  
  Well, not by accident.

Ce n'est pas une cacahuète

But... It's a legume?!
- Which tracks perfectly with the meme if you read it again

Whatever the Tiger 2-XL was "programmed" in, it's the best.
- Thought this was a YTP at first.
  
  No, just an early 90's toy commercial. Which is probably a video genre of it's own.

wheres scala?
- It's incompatible with the version of this meme

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