Why do we even have to have this conversation in the first place
Why do we even have to have this conversation in the first place
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Choosing between missing the point and ignoring the problem sucks.
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Unless people are ready to have a massive bloody revolution today, the options are Biden and Trump.
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i expect to have more options on my ballot, and that most people will
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"BuT tHaT mEaNs YuR gIvInG vOtEs To TeH bAd GuYs" -political binarists on either side
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"Nooo voting third party is voting for Trump" so tired of this
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But it actually is.
Look, our system sucks. Until the system itself gets fixed, third party candidates will always be spoilers.
2000 was a great example. Nader got close to 100k votes in FL. Gore lost by fewer than 500.
And Nader had a great record. He has always been a champion of environmentalism. Gore was too, but a little too corporate.
Doesn’t matter. We got Bush Jr.
Was 8 years of Bush 43 better for the world and environment than Gore? Probably not. But there’s 100k voters in FL for whom “environment” was likely a top concern, and as far as I’m concerned, 99,500 of them are fully responsible for the shape of the world today.
It’s great to have ideals and morals. Hell, even if you don’t and you just have a vendetta against establishment (and, assuming your chosen third party were now a major party, you would stop supporting them), that’s fine too.
But there comes a point when those ideals clash with reality, and following them has outcomes contrary to your ideals.
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It often feels like the folks stoked about either are increasingly pushing people towards that conclusion.
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