“The truth is I was being hunted down from everything I posted to every post I liked because I was not in line with the acceptable narrative of the time,”
If you define the "acceptable narrative of the time" as "conforming with reality and minimal human empathy" then yes, that's accurate.
"Gina Carano will not be returning to The Mandalorian or the Star Wars galaxy after sharing a post on social media implying that being a Republican today is like being Jewish during the Holocaust."
I read about a Jewish woman standing on a train platform whose baby was crying from hunger. The Nazi guard didn't like the noise and grabbed the baby by both legs and swung it as hard as he could against a brick wall and then handed it back to the mom and made some quip about how it wasn't crying anymore.
Before they built the gas chambers and ovens they used to just force all the men, women, and children to dig huge trenches, then they'd make them all climb inside, and then just mow them down with machine guns. Adolph Eichmann said he orchestrated the gas chambers and built the Nazi genocide machine to spare the Nazi soldiers from the low morale that came from gunning down thousands and thousands of helpless moms holding up their babies begging for salvation, along with elderly people, and kids, while the able-bodied dads, sons, and brothers were sent to work as slaves for as long as it took for them to starve to death or die of exposure.
What a stupid and ignorant thing for this absolute uneducated fool to say out loud.
And fuck social media for giving her a platform to begin with.
Fuck, I hate to side with the Mouse but at least this time around they seem to be drawing a line instead of promoting Nazism to Americans.
And also that the Hulkster actually had a case. Gawker repeatedly refused to comply with court orders to take Hulk's tuna can video down.
This is just a wanna-be martyr who got fired because she couldn't keep her goddamn mouth shut about her stupid conspiracy theories and ride the Mouse's cash train. But hey, watching Muskie burn even more money is always entertaining, so fucking let it rip.
I get that Hulk had a case, but he couldn't have afforded to bring it himself. So Peter Thiel, who has endless money and an axe to grind with Gawker for outing him, funded it.
Which is sort of similar here, except that Musk's axe to grind is because Disney stopped giving Twitter money and is "woke," so it's even more petty.
It was more about who is funding the case than whether the case has merit.
This is not the same at all. Disney did not out anything private about her or Musk. They also did not publish revenge porn of her. She is a public transphobe and a Holocaust denier.
Filing a nuisance suit against her former employer is a great way to boost her career, and teaming up with a scumbag like Musk helps clarify her ethics for anyone who’s unfamiliar with who she is. Outstanding move, Gina!
She no longer has a career with mainstream studios.
Fascist bullshit is her career now. I assume she has another wackadoodle movie coming out soon. Or maybe she's the next mother of Elon's soon to be estranged children.
As much as I agree with you logically, and also disagree with what she did, we shouldn't encourage people to avoid lawsuits to address injustice they perceived. That's how we ended up with #metoo. So many on the entertainment industry not rocking the boat as it could damage their career. Some were blacklisted for speaking out, so it was a real fear.
If it was a real injustice the same logic would apply and we should take that into consideration when we consider damages for real injustices.
I agree completely. I had the same concern as I was writing my comment, which is why I was careful to specify that it’s a nuisance suit. (Side note: autocorrect saved my butt. I can never remember how to spell “nuisance”.)
The suit details that Carano was required by Disney to meet with a representative from the LGBTQ+ group Glaad after online behaviour that was seen as anti-trans, yet she refused. She was then asked to meet with a group of LGBTQ+ Disney employees but again refused and was fired soon after.
Girl…you were put on a Performance Improvement Plan. You didn’t complete it. You were fired as a result. It would happen at my job, too. They don’t want to give money to people who will make them look bad. Most places don’t. You probably signed a lot of paperwork agreeing to do or not do a bunch of shit and then you did it.
Was that like…your first job or something?
Edit: I read this on here right before the Gina article. Elon Musk is such a trash person and hypocrite:
Per Bloomberg, these California workers were fired in 2022 after they circulated a draft of an open letter critical of CEO Elon Musk. The letter stated that Musk's behavior in public was "a frequent source of distraction and embarrassment," according to a New York Times report.
It also contained an allegation that the company wasn't complying with its zero-tolerance policy on sexual harassment. Although the draft letter didn't specify the exact allegations, it mentioned "recent allegations against our CEO and his public disparagement of the situation," per The Verge.
Also the demand she meet with queer coworkers was clearly an attempt to communicate that she was creating a hostile workplace for coworkers based on protected statuses.
And it should be noted that politics are intentionally not protected because otherwise black listing communists would be illegal
The suit details that Carano was required by Disney to meet with a representative from the LGBTQ+ group Glaad after online behaviour that was seen as anti-trans, yet she refused. She was then asked to meet with a group of LGBTQ+ Disney employees but again refused and was fired soon after.
Interesting - I'd have thought someone who clearly has a history of using steroids would be more empathetic to those who's gender doesn't match their outward appearance
I don't know what part about this story I hate more; she was good in the role and entertaining but refused to even even meet with LGBT individuals.
Or the fact that the mouse was entirely justified in their actions here after giving her two very easy outs to save her job. If the mouse looks good next to you during a conflict, you definitely fucked up.
Also stinkrat needs to.go to Mars already and either have his rocket explode or get run over by a smart far.
I'm not about to be lectured by a bunch SJW activists, even if I generally agree with them. I can't blame her there, it sounds unbearable.
But she knew what the deal was when she skipped those meetings, and you can't come back with a law suit saying you were unfairly fired. She chose to not play the game, but still wants the disney paychecks.
Can that guy please get out of every fucking news story in the world? He's like a poisoned drop of ink in a glass of water that spreads and spreads until the whole fucking glass is filled black with poison. Except the glass of water is actually the entire zeitgeist.
Yeah. But too many billionaires do the same, they just manage to be invisible or have a better image crafted. They are the new lords and ladies of our civilization with incredibly, unaccountable and undemocratic power.
Oh no, her right to not suffer the consequences of her actions was infringed. She should be allowed to say whatever she wants and no one should be able to get upset, they have to accept it, it's not like other people have rights, only her.
I had forgotten what she was fired for and was taking her side in the headline right up till it said "with the help of Elon Musk." Then I knew she had to have done something really dumb. COVID misinformation is no joke kids. Not even once.
People do have a right to say whatever they want, no matter how racist, homophobic, transphobic or sexist it is ..... it's just that most people can't afford to defend that level of stupidity, arrogance and ignorance in the court of public opinion or an actual court.
I mean sort of. While I get what you are saying but it seems a bit weird, as long as the person isn't being fired for being part of a protected class I see no issue with a company trying to distance themselves from someone who function is to be a "Brand Mascot" where what they say will be associated with the company hiring them. Fame is a rather fickled thing and reputation sort of plays into the worth of a "celebrity", like sure behind closed doors these asshats can be as vile and shitty as they want to be but the second they are exposed in the public, the public's desire to see said person probably drops dramatically since they are isolating a section(s) of the audience who will be wanting to watch something with them in it.
Hell a decent example would be Ellen Degeneres, after it came out publicly that she was a bit of a cunt to her workers. The rating for her show dropped quite a bit (apparently about 40%) after the backlash leading to many of her side shows getting canned and her not getting renewed for a new season for her talk show. At the end of the day its just a big popularity contest where everyone is vying for people's attention in an already saturated market.
Hate speech or fascist speech has to be repressed. There should be legal recourse but we are seeing now how the unfiltered and amplifying of profitable "polarizing" messages help fascism spread. It's almost too late.
PS: But maybe they could bring her back as a storm trooper?
Her character was fun, but I didn't think she handled the "deeper" scenes where they tried to fill out her character.
I loved the show, though, and thought she had potential for future seasons. I don't miss her not being on the show, and knowing she's a nutjob erases any sympathy I'd have for her getting Mandy'd.
"Uh, I'm gonna need you to specify this universe, or all possible universes - yeah in writing - no, I haven't been to any other universes but jeeze, "through-out" isn't exactly explicit and - hello? hello?"
Just a reminder that anyone can sue anyone for any reason, it's just a question of how long it takes for it to get thrown out.
I could sue you for defamation, despite neither a conspicuous lack of any contact or reason for it, and as long as I get that news to the Media before a Judge tells me to fuck off and my lawyer gets censured into dust, the headline would still say I was suing you.
Is there a name for giving people a platform by attempting to cancel them?
Just how many people did firing her prevent her from reaching? I for one follow everything star wars but would never have seen her tweets if not for this drama.
Just how many people did firing her prevent her from reaching?
Disney doesn't want to 'cancel' her, they just don't want to be associated with her.
They don't care whom she reaches as long as people don't think they endorse her views.
She cancelled herself by playing alt-right culture warrior games. In the real adult world, you have to do what your boss and contract say or else you get fired.
We don't need to body shame Elon. There are scads of things we can behavior shame him on, and that has a chance of positively affecting the world (not him, he'll never see this, but someone out there might see this and reconsider thinking he's cool.)
Disney obviously did not run their message announcing Carano's dismissal through HR, and it will cost them. Carano probably has a good case for defamation because of the way she was dismissed. This was very careless on Disney's part and has left them open to retaliation. They could have simply announced the departure and left it at that. Future employers should take note that if you dismiss someone, say as little about it as possible.
Not a Lawyer and definitely someone that would love to see Disney get bent over the legal barrel and financial bitch slapped... But Carano has no case and nothing to gain here except publicity with right leaning organizations. Disney gave her numerous chances to walk her comments back and try to educate her to what she did wrong. She refused each time. Disney then terminated her employment and made a standard PR announcement as to why they made the decision they did, something fairly common in the industry.
Defamation would require Disney made untrue comments or statements about her, and her to prove those statements were false or misleading. Since this all happened over public social media, there isn't any evidence Disney did anything but state facts and amicably as they could inform the public why she would not reprise the character in the future. If there is any comments that would qualify as defamatory Im not aware of any of them.