1y ago

Sheltered Reddit liberals finding out in real time that they're not in a pro-west echo chamber is fucking hilarious.

Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They've been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren't Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it's bots or wumao. Human beings can't possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

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🔺 This place is a RussianChinese bot farm disinformation campaign 69k filled with CCP shills and Russian trolls. 🔻 I doubt there are any real human posters here. Edit1: Wow, so many updoots! Edit2: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
- This formatting is incredible, a real work of art.
  
  It looks like that nuclear waste sign. The "This place is not a place of honor" thing.
  
  I tried to click the upvote button but nothing happened !!!
- I doubt there are any real human posters here.
  redditors are indistinguishable from any AI algorithm response
- I doubt there are any real human posters here.
  Well, we're certainly different from the humans you seem to be used to, my lib dude.

I was honestly not excited about federation and still think we will be de-federated within hours (is that possible?) because liberals cannot stand being so consistently embarrassed by Marxists BUT I will say that a major factor in my radicalization was finding r/chapotraphouse years ago back on reddit. For every lib we dunk on, others will start to wonder and ask questions and even laugh along with communist jokes (by far the funniest on the internet). Liberalism actually has an extremely limited appeal, the democrats excite almost no one, and it’s true that some of their more lukewarm supporters just don’t know that you can fight liberalism without being a fucking nazi.
- I would disagree that liberalism has "extremely limited" appeal. Many people are perfectly happy with the mediocrity offered by liberalism, and that's one of the major challenges, that so many people prefer it over radical change of any kind.
  
  Liberalism: acceptable to many, desirable to few.
  
  I mean it's boosted by the fact that it's the dominant ideology and permeates everything. for most people, it's existed without question their entire lives. so I'm not sure how happy people will be with it when they're offered a real alternative, even among people who objectively benefit from it.
  
  I suppose, but I was increasingly frustrated by the way democrats endlessly kowtowed to republicans and how they got nothing, absolutely nothing in return for it. I thought it was just an issue with “corporate democrats” at first, until I witnessed Bernie and AOC’s total capitulation in 2020 and began to understand that this country’s problems go way deeper than fucking campaign contributions. R/chapotraphouse really helped provide answers for my questions, namely reading Marxist theory and history (and responding to fascists and liberals with pigpoopballs).
  
  I think the only people to whom liberalism really appeals to are those who are entirely disengaged. I think anybody who becomes active immediately begins to discover liberalism's inherent contradictions, and finds themselves faced with the reality of either becoming some variety of fascist or socialist, depending on what their true values are.
  
  I personally take it less as people finding liberalism appealing, and more that real change is scary and entails the possibility of suffering and death.
- I literally found CTH because I saw liberals on r/latestagecapitalism talking about "the scary dirtbag chapos" who "tell right-wingers to post hog" and was thought to myself "Wait no these people sound awesome, actually. I am so sick of people trying to play nice with actual Nazis" and decided to see what you guys were actually like and it turns out you aren't scary at all. Lol.
  
  I also found LSC first, then after someone mentioned CTH I started lurking there, because it was just better. After CTH was banned, LSC went full
  with Bill Gates praising and shit, and it was just depressing to read at that point.
  
  no im scary

Put it this way, CTH was tiny compared to the size of reddit yet it had such an impact on the site that Reddit's admins wanted it gone to stop the left pressure it created.
Hexbear is significantly larger comparatively when compared with the size of Lemmy. The influence we have on Lemmy is larger than it was on reddit. Currently at least, assuming Lemmy continues to grow that might not be true in future, but for now it absolutely is. Particularly because we're only on a few instances.
- Because CTH established one of the essential steps towards a revolutionary movement: “an alternative cultural pole”. So it was dangerous and had to be destroyed.
  
  Is "an alternative cultural pole" a phrase from some theoretical work? Asking because it sounds interesting, and I came up short on DuckDuckGo.

To the reddit refugee, liberals, whatever: Your system is evil. You may not notice it because you are a cozy Labour aristocrat (even if doing "manual" labor, lmao) mostly worried about your slice of the bloody fucking pie. One week as an out trans person sees more hate than you will ever experience, there is fucking blood on most of the things you consume for fun, ask yourself how you get this or that snazzy device you fucking uncaring roman. Ask yourself why bananas are cheaper than apples in North America, ask yourself why thousands of migrants drown in the fucking piss water you euro fucks skinny dip in, who fucking harvests your watery shit vegetables.
Look at the millionaire while he pretends he is your friend, listen to the pod, check your boxes, do your "polsci", read the virtual toilet rag editorials, shudder at the thought of fucked up, desperate people doing honest mistakes, fall for the lies, laugh at the Stalin quote about his heart of stone, then notice you don't even have anything close to a heart beating in your pilates toned, conscious living chest
Your system is rotten. Some of us honestily tried to fix it, but you wouldn't have it. Vote Blue if you think it saves you, you could at least admit you are being blackmailed by a duopoly. Europe: You couldn't even get out of the neoliberal shit if you wanted to. You are too stagnant and now you are falling to the guys you derided as untermensch, "uneducated", or "autocratic" (rich coming from you lmao)
I, personally, have no great hopes for china, though you might ask yourself why your "concern" is so focused on this country, while you never acted up before about any western injustice. But fuck you and fuck anything you stand for. We will not rush to save it. We hope to survive, at least some of us, despite of all your "help" and "efforts"
- This goes hard, I hope something from here ends up as a new header.
  
  what do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a SOCIETY that ABANDONS HIM AND TREATS HIM LIKE TRASH?!
- Bravo! You mentioned so many stuff any reasonable human can deduce by themselves, but they just refuse to.
  I would add big difference with China: China is not pretending that they are nice and humane and always right. I never heard them preaching to someone and pretending they are better humans with more humanity than others. No hypocrisy in which EU is drawing in, started to be obvious (to me) in 2014 with Greece and all masks fell down during covid and totally confirmed with war in Ukraine.
  Thay, agajn, managed to create a war between slavs and now are setting up our brothers in west africa to fight among themselves, I really hope they will resist this time.
- nitpick but the German term is "untermensch" (plural: untermenschen).
- You’re not wrong but this is pretty cringe

I actually don't think I've seen anything like this on this site before:
- oml I just found out why we have this as an emote lmfao
  
  I suggested that 😎
  First custom emote on the website too!
  
  It should be :neverstopposting:
- oh back when the site first launched, comments would get squished until they were 1 character wide, so the replies would be entirely vertical. and the threads would continue anyway because people were replying from their inbox.
  
  and I'd do it again
- throwback to the
  days but the lemmy UI makes going deep in threads a far more pleasant experience, especially since the websockets removal
- 🏳️‍🌈
- We're reaching power levels we never even imagined

Hexbear has 565 users/day and there are not even 500 upbears on this thread.

Beep boop I am programmed to destroy the west boop beep.
- Good bot. Start any time, the people of the west yearn for freedom.
- Chinese bot accounts have more humanity than western liberals
  
  Say what you will about those Chinese bots, I've never heard one advocate for a nuclear holocaust.
  
  Chinese bot: "I'm just wandering around China eating good food and enjoying scenery. Look at this cool train and neat skyscrapers. Panda!"
  Western liberal: "BLOOD! BLOOD! BLOOD! THE LINE CAN ONLY BE APPEASED BY THE SACRIFICE OF THE VITAL ESSENSE OF THE POOR ON THE ALTAR OF CIVILITY!"
- go gett'em

TheTruthaboutChina.jpg
- Charles de Gaulle is the embodiment of
  
  Not a fan, but when hes right hes right

WAIT A MINUTE THAT'S NOT FROM AN APPROVED SOURCE ON MY MEDIA BIAS INFOGRAPHIC.
MODS MODS PLEASE REMOVE THIS
THESE CLAIMS AREN'T BACKED BY A DNC NGO, THEREFORE IT'S DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION THAT'S HELPING REPUBLICANS WIN.
THOSE ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY THE US WERE NECESSARY TO DEVELOP THE RULES BASED INTERNATIONAL ORDER, I'M SORRY IT HAPPENED BUT WE COULDN'T BE HERE NOW WITHOUT IT.

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

I'm glad we aren't a propagandized echo chamber like those putin bots

Here are links that explain why i disagree with you on china

Mods! MOOOOODS!
- Insert Winnie the Pooh image here

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
- Wow so you think it's okay that landlords were killed and the land was given back to the working class it was stolen from. No wonder everyone hates hexbear, this filth site is full of hatred.

Everybody posting from a Hexbear account can instantly be disregarded as a Russian bot. They need to read more Wikipedia pages about China and North Korea instead of fairy tales about make believe economics
- It's sad because even Wikipedia has a better grasp of what happened in cases like tinyman square than these libs do. We on hexbear are haunted by the specter of Harry Potter being the only literature liberals have read on their own accord
- It's funny to me that Libs simultaneously believe that Russia is a gas station with an army but at the same time has a legion of Turing-complete bots capable of shitposting.
  
  It’s funny to me that Libs simultaneously believe that Russia is a gas station with an army but at the same time has a legion of consumer grade GPUs
- I'm a computer
  I'm a computery guy
  Everythings made out of buttons and wires

WHY ARE THERE OVER 700 COMMENTS ON THIS
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, COMRADES?!
- Look. I may have underrestimated how this is would have gone. Sorry to the server hosting PPB. It was supposed to be a jab at libs that wasn't worthy of a separate post on dunk tank
  
  I think we're actually hug-of-deathing ourselves
  Legit DDoSing ourselves to own the libs
- this is so sad. can we get 1000 comments? be sure to like and subscribe !
  
  Smash that subscribe button for more content brought to you by Nord VPN

chart for visiting libs to throw a dart at before calling us tankies
- is this shit actually real? there's several I've never seen before, the brainrot is even worse than I thought
  
  i remember the unicorn one, it was the reason i stopped believing anything bad about north korea when it came from an english source when i was a socdem

one thousand comments on a non-megathread post
fucking incredible. federation was a masterstroke

😔

- Apparently right after the Bosheviks seized the palace they raided the alcohol stores and had a giant party/orgy for a full week
  
  same energy, different perspective
  
  this painting goes hard fr.
- I'm really no affectionato and have little formal training when it comes to high art, but this. This speaks to my soul.

EVERYONE BUT ME IS A CCPP BOT
- No me. 😤
  I'm a wumao
- Not true! I am a ccp shill

I'm going to lock this thread at some point tonight, so that other threads may be born.

uncritical support to comrade @GarbageShoot@hexbear.net's efforts to kindly engage with the libs in the anti China thread that's active right now. I appreciate that someone is in there not just sending ppb but I'm not gonna do it lol
- 🥰

The maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.
- I never tire of this refrain
  
  The maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.
  Total number of syllables = 55
  there's some serious math-hop jam potential here

for such an effective bait thread lmao

Holy shit we’re at r/cth levels of comments on this post now, never thought I’d see the day again

To any wandering libs, if you want to better understand our perspective, listen to a season of Blowback: https://blowback.show/Season-2
Or really anybody who wants to understand the Iraq War, the history of the United States and Cuba, and the Korean War from a leftist perspective. Really good reporting, includes original interviews with still living people that lived through that history.
- For a more condensed primer, there's always yellow parenti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP8CzlFhc14

Whats wumao? I'm out of the loop.
- In seriousness, in Chinese currency, there is fen (1分), 10 fen is a mao (1毛) and 10 mao is 1 yuan (1元)
  In some liberal fever dream, people were paid 5 mao per post to defend the CPC on the internet. Which doesn't really make a lot of sense since they also believe mentioning Tiananmen Square will get you SWATed. So dissent is never posted online, but when it is there's a ready team of professional posters defending China. Which even the west admits is a lie, even the Wikipedia article notes "In contrast to common assumptions, the 50 Cent Party consists mostly of paid bureaucrats who respond to government directives and rarely defend their government from criticism or engage in direct arguments because "... the goal of this massive secretive operation is instead to distract the public and change the subject.""
  This has spread to any defense or China on a western platform being done by highly bilingual Chinese state employees for 50 cents a post.
  
  I saw Curtis Jackson in Tiananmen Square yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him to join the 50 Cent Party or anything.
  He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
  I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face.
  
  the CCP owes me 1.5k buckaroonies. I assume my check is in the mail.
  
  for 50 cents a post.
  I'd become the very billionaire I sought to destroy
  
  Is the money named after the man, or is
  basically "Cash Money Zedong," like
  is "Joey Steel"
  
  Ah, so it's basically the right wing conspiracy theories of paid protestors, which seems to show up everywhere.
  
  Wheres My Money Xi ????
- Chinese version of SorosBucks. Supposedly the evil sea sea pea pays people rmb¥.50元 yuan per internet comment to support them.
- About fiddy cents

I DEMAND sort by controversial
- Some of the libs got very racist so if Controvertial was a thing it's be deleted comments
- That isn't possible because we removed the downvote button because transphobes were using it to downvote anything trans adjacent.
  
  It is, you would just have to take into account upbears over time and possibly the comment upbears in relations to other comments in the chain.
  
  I wonder how downvote disabling works with federation.

Sounds like you made shit up so you can argue against it.
- There's literally an active thread about China "violating" """Taiwan"""'s airspace, and the OP assumes a bot army is defending the PRC in the comments because he's in a different instance and can't see Hexbear post histories.
  
  That was so stupid because he could see when accounts were registered, and even pointed that out. I guess he seriously thought there were CCP sleeper cell bot accounts that waited three years to activate.
  
  Alright, I didn't read your comment but I clicked your profile and my browser had an error. Now I know you aren't even really a person. I've got you figured all out.
  
  Does anyone know what determines what history another instance can see?
  On Lemmy.ml, you can see my post-federation posts+comments, and then a single dumb comment about eels from 2 months ago, and nothing else.
- We didn't make it up though that was Adam Smith.
- Looks like a confused liberal wandered into the Hexbear thread about confused liberals wandering into Hexbear, then pretended like it was a made up phenomenon.
  
  Are you gonna cry?
- 🚨 ATTENTION 🚨
  Your account has been flagged for bot-like activity.
  Please review the Posting Policy Bulletin and post hog for account verification.
  This is an automated message. If you believe you have received this in error, click here to opt out of future communications.
  
  We really need more bots. Amber bot, for old times sake, a bot bot, a combat liberalism bot that uses an LLM to make up completely unhinged mao quotes about doing kung-fu at Rothbard.
  
  There’s a bot flag option in settings that might be fun to turn on for this account to go with the bit. It adds an extra icon indication by the name.
  
  lol, is that the equivalent of "reddit cares" spam?
- 😠
- Why are you so proud to be out of the loop? Lmao
- why would we need to make anything up when there's a constant supply of fresh hogs to point and laugh at?
- Lib doesn't know how libs act, proceeds to act like a lib
- Sounds like a skill issue on your part
  Post hog or get the fuck out
  
  😠

mkultrawide was here

The elites don't want to you to know this, but you can post in the thread as many times you want. I've posted in this thread 458 times.

I'm not locked in here with you, YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME
- Locked in with her - Hillary 2024 slogan

I think it's much funnier when I've been involved in IRL current events and/or philosophy groups.

This is the shitpost that broke the internet. Goodluck folks I'm off to bed.

This comment section is a goldmine

Libs are so fragile, I’ve been literally banned form half of reddit and twitter due to being “a putin bot” since the outbreak in the war. Apparently “Everyones right to a voice” is only okay if its pro-fascism.
- banned within minutes from r/196 for reminding people that the Soviet Union liberated Auschwitz

I don't really have anything to say, but from the looks of these comments, nobody else does either.

Joe many liberals does it take to change a hex by bear????? None , their to busy ???? Their Adrian Zenz articles 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Is this Hexbear's 1kultra project?

wait is this the megathread
- it is now
- It's the Ultra thread
  
  -thread.

Where were you when this thread popped off

Sorry for the culture shock, Lemmy.
But also Vencermos

o7 Hexbear

we can push this shit to over 500 comments in less than a day push harder tankies!!!

750 comments

Is this the biggest thread outside of megas? This will go down in Hexbear history

Bots are like 60% of all posts and comments online. Most of the time you're talking to bots designed to click-bait you. I'm probably talking to only bots right now. Just how it is.

Hey eyeyeyey~! Ey Ton! I'm starting to think this whole western media portrayal of China is a buncha gobagool like Ma makes for Thanksgiving

1111 comments as of this one!

posting (late) in a legendary thread
- Not that late, the comments have doubled in the past 90 minutes and the active sort algo can have this go for another day or so.

I have been in terminal touching grass mode for the last few months.
So uuuuuh what's been happening here?
- LiberalSocialist returned as CatholicSocialist and is arguing with everyone. Maybe.
  
  Sure!

To the Lemmy libs in North America: China is going to kick your shit in.
To the Lemmy libs in Europe: Russia is going to kick your shit in.
And it's fucking glorious.

The maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.