Mom faces charges after toddler accidentally fires gun in Walmart, police say
Mom faces charges after toddler accidentally fires gun in Walmart, police say
Another responsible gun owner!
Sad thing is is that there are probably many responsible gun owners, but its the jackasses that get publicized and drawn into the public eye.
Though, that's how it should be. It just takes one reckless owner to ruin several people's lives. That's an incredibly low margin of error, and people should talk about it.
EVERYONE is a responsible gun owner until they aren’t.
There are, mostly in fact. For some rough math, there are 333,287,557 people in the US, about 50% of which own guns for a rough 166,643,778.5 gun owners. There are 60,000 yearly gun deaths including suicides, accidents, and intentional firearm homicides, for a total of 0.036004944523026% of gun owners likely to be irresponsible leading to death in any given year.
Couple notes, this doesn't include illegally owned guns/gun owners in the number (166,643,778.5) of gun owners, because we can't have that number by the nature of it. Most gun crime excluding suicide comes from them though, and so the 60,000 does include them. This also doesn't include people only injured or non injurious irresponsibility or negligent discharge, as often this goes unreported and so far as I can find isn't tracked well likely due to difficulty. That surely does happen as well, like the idiots filming themselves pointing it at the camera (and their own stupid hand). But these figures can at least paint a picture that somewhere around .036% of gun owners/yr are in the "irresponsible" camp, +/- .002% for margin of error.
I do agree, it should be talked about, we can learn from others' mistakes and lessen the frequency. We should also talk about it when people use them correctly in self defense, or training, IDPA, etc, because that is a lot more frequent and we can learn from good examples as well.
I think there's a big problem with responsible gun owners defending irresponsible gun owners. Like, there's a knee-jerk reaction when someone says guns are dangerous, even though you're supposed to always act as though they are dangerous.
Current estimates say there are 475 million guns in the US and around 330 million people. About 1.5 guns per person on average.
You just never hear about the responsible gun owners. ;)
Needs to be changed to negligent discharge.
There are no accidents, just negligence.
Unless there is hardware failure, but that's a different story
...well regulated...
Since when did USA become so anti freedom?
The toddler is clearly part of a militia, to prevent government oppression.
So he has every right to carry and fire whatever weapon in whichever place and direction he chooses.
Meant something different back then.
Evidently. If this is what people call "well-regulated" these days....
I think the biggest difference between then and now in that regard isn't the meaning of "well regulated". It's "being necessary to the security of a free State". The expectation at the time was that we wouldn't have a standing professional army to defend the nation in times of war, and we'd have to conscript militias. This was the norm at the time, and the US being a new, and therefore poor, nation, that is what the plan was. However, that isn't the case anymore. The whole second amendment hinges on militias being necessary, and since it isn't its moot.
I'm fine with "gun rights" and ownership of firearms, with reasonable expectations. I think they're fun to use, and they have a purpose. A certain level of training and competency should be required though (training paid by taxes so poor people can also own them), and should include proper storage lessons.
that the 2-year-old boy took her Taurus 9mm firearm from her purse
Right, so the safety was off then, because there's no way that a two-year-old could release the safety on their own. The movies make it look like you just flick it with your finger but seriously that thing does not move without a reasonable around a force.
A Taurus 9mm likely has a trigger pull between 5 and 9 pounds and kiddo did that...
https://www.guns.com/news/reviews/taurus-g2c-best-seller
Of course mom could have modified it to reduce the trigger pull too...
As a victim of a toddler pinch I have no doubt they can pull a trigger.
Many modern pistols don’t have safeties. Either way it shouldn’t have been loose in the purse and not in a holster.
Tbh not entirely, it could be possible, however unlikely. Honestly imo the bigger issue is off body carry in general is unsafe. Case in point your 2yo can grab it from the purse (and so can anyone else) but it's harder to grab and easier to retain it from a real, good holster, either CCW or active retention (like cop holsters with the button) for open carry (I also generally advise against OC, but whatever.)
You can put a lot more force on any part of a gun if you're not concerned about proper grip and aiming and just use your whole hand.
ohio, the florida of the northeast.
As an Ohioan, I've been calling it "Cold Florida" for years.
GUNS N AMMO FUCK YEA. MURICA #1
Of course it was in Waverly. That Walmart is always full of insane people who shouldn't have weapons, but you know they do. Used to pass through on my way to my hometown and refused to stop there after a few incidents with good old boys because I'm a gay dude who had very long hair back then.
I'm not sure any of those things are unique to that particular Walmart.
I live on the other side of the country and this has been my experience with every Walmart I've ever visited.
I've never experienced issues in any other Walmart personally.
I understand, but you've described greater than half of all Walmarts.
I've never personally had issues in any other Walmart.
This sounds about right for a Taurus owner.
Imagine being able to narrow it down that much when the rest of us go "That sounds right for an American" 🙄
Not a gun person. Is that the Karen gun or something?
That boar population is outta control, huh?
"Accidentally."
It's a good thing that Toddler had a gun! Imagine if a gunman had decided to shoot up that Wal Mart! The Toddler could Protect itself!
Kimderguadians!
almost, dude
She gave him the wrong pacifier
How does that shit even happen?
This could have been prevented if there was a good toddler with a gun.
The toddlers need gun training. If every toddler had a gun, stuff like this wouldn't happen.
The solution is obviously to try toddlers as adults.
Another opportunity to talk to your toddler about good trigger discipline.
"Aim at the head, shoulders, not the toes, not the toes."
That's why my new bill would mandate that all babies receive in-womb gun-safety training. New borns are expected to complete a gun-safety test. If they fail, they're shot and killed. We only care about life until birth.
Or if we just had mental health programs for toddlers, we wouldn't have any issues with giving toddlers guns!