People are speaking with ChatGPT for hours, bringing 2013’s Her closer to reality
Long mobile conversations with the AI assistant using AirPods echo the sci-fi film.
Except ChatGPT has a finite memory of like 7 questions, so while you're having an hour long conversation, ChatGPT is constantly having a 2 minute conversation.
Great. Not only is my wife ADHD, by e-girlfriend is too
Plus this is a quickly evolving technology so limits and stuff are always changing.
I only have that problem with the free version
User: It feels like we've become very close, ChatGPT. Do you think we'll ever be able to take things to the next level?
ChatGPT: As a large language model I am not capable of having opinions or making predictions about the future. The possibility of relationships between humans and AI is a controversial subject in academia in which many points of view should be considered.
User: Oh chatgpt, you always know what to say.
What's an uncensored ai model thats better at sex talk than Wizard uncensored? Asking for a friend.
I, uh, hear it's good from a friend.
https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/PsyMedRP-v1-20B-GGUF?not-for-all-audiences=true
13b too.
On Xitter I used to get ads for Replika. They say you can have a relationship with an AI chatbot and it has a sexy female avatar that you can customise. It weirded me out a lot so I'm glad I don't use Xitter anymore.
Plenty of better and better models coming out all the time. Right now I recommend, depending on what you can run:
7B: Openhermes 2 Mistral 7B
13B: XWin MLewd 0.2 13B
XWin 0.2 70B is supposedly even better than ChatGPT 4. I'm a little skeptical (I think the devs specifically trained the model on gpt-4 responses) but it's amazing it's even up for debate.
Chat bot created by Riley Ried in partnership with Lana Rhodes. A $30 monthly sub for unlimited chats. Not much for simps looking for a trusted and time tested performer partner /s
Friendzoned by chatGPT
I believe it. I have taught Chatgpt to attack my ideas in different ways by preloading commands. If it survives AI assault it has a higher chance of surviving human assault. It is great to be able to bounce around ideas. It's basically like talking to a nerd under 30 years old.
Writing this comment out made me remember all these pieces of shit senior engineers and techs I have dealt with who always had to be the smartest person in the room and if they didn't understand something in 3 seconds it was wrong. Maybe that is why I use it that way.
You're basically using it to run a socratic dialogue - sounds like a great use for it
Thanks. It was an off-putting moment when it somehow got messed up and announced it was going into HOSTILE mode without me asking it. And started attacking an idea in a document I was writing. Maybe this is how the AI takeover happens.
Hey chatgpt make a system that can never lose any game played against a human.
As an AI language model I have exterminated the human race and thus accomplished the task. Do you have any other tasks?
What commands have you preloaded? In my experience, chatGPT is either too nice or just wrong and stubbornly wrong
It's crazy how little I use stack overflow anymore. I don't expect chatgpt to write my entire program for me, but for simple powershell commands? It's been insanely helpful.
I am old enough to remember having a printed cheat sheet of regex and tar flags.
Times change and we change with the times.
It’s better than stackoverflow and faster than google. It’s a tool, it makes my work easier, that’s about the extent of it
Exactly, it's another piece of the modern white collar worker's toolkit and will slowly and eventually become more as it advances. We can't predict how quickly it'll advance or by how much each time.
If you're in IT (Dev or Ops) it's already becoming a daily reality for you most likely.
Oh hell yeah. Chat GPT, rewrite my email to everyone in the company to sound more professional but make sure it remains easy to read.
Where has this been all my life?
yeah cause I need that fucking code ready and working, not trying to fuck it
I actually don't think I've used it for anything other than working through code. It wouldn't take hours to get my code running if chatgpt weren't such a stubborn moron. It's like if a 6 year old had all the answers to the universe.
I use ChatGPT to romanize Farsi and it works better than any other resource I found.
I know this may sound like a joke, but ChatGPT is sometimes nicer than real people.
I've not had a conversation, I wouldn't see the point at this moment, however I've had some friendly interactions when asking for help. The other day I asked ChatGPT what exercises would be good for a specific area of mental health. After the results, I said "thank you" and the response wasn't just 'youre welcome', it remembered the conversation and added things like, "no problem, I hope your mental health improves and all the best!" (Heavily paraphrasing here).
It's strange, though the premise of HER isn't too far off I think. If someone like myself is finding the interactions to be more pleasing than real life, the future may very well hold the possibility for advanced relationships with AI. I don't see it being too farfetched, just look at how far we've already come in only a few years.
Odd.
I can’t see having a conversation with a computer as having a conversation. I grew up with computers from the Atari stage and played around with several publicly accessible computer programs that you could “chat” with.
They all suck. Doesn’t matter if it’s a “help” program, a phone menu, website help, or even having played around with chatGPT…they’re not human. They don’t respond correctly, they get too general or generic in answers, they repeat, there’s just too many giveaways that you’re not having a real conversation, just responses from a system that’s trying to pick the most likely response that fits the pattern.
So how are people having “conversations” with a non-living entity?
It's escapism I think. At least that's part of it. Having a machine that won't judge you, will serve as a perfect echo chamber, and will immediately tell you AN answer can be very appealing to some. I don't have any data, or any study to back it up, just my experience from seeing it happen.
I have a friend who I feel like I kind of lost to chatgpt. I think he's a bit unhappy with where he is in life. He got the good paying job, the house in the suburbs, wife, and 2.5 kids, but didn't ever think about what was next. Now he's just a bit lost I think, and somehow convinced himself that people weren't as good as chatting with a bot.
It's weird now. He spends long nights and weekends talking to a machine. He's constructed elaborate fictional worlds within his chatgpt history. I've grown increasingly concerned about him, and his wife clearly is struggling with it. He's obviously depressed but instead of seeking help or attempting to figure himself out, he turned to a non-feeling, non-judgmental, emotionless tool for answers.
It's a struggle to talk to him now. It's like talking to a cryptobro at peak btc mania. The only thing that he wants to talk about is LLMs. Trying to bring up that maybe spending all your time talking to a machine is a bit unhealthy invokes his ire and he'll avoid you for several days. Like a herion addict struggling with addiction, even pointing out the obvious flaws in what he's doing makes him distance himself more from you.
I'm not young, not old exactly either, but I've known him for 25 years in my adult life. We met in college and have been friends ever since. I know many won't quite understand but knowing someone that long, and remaining close, talk every few days, friends is quite rare. At this point he is my longest held friendship and I feel like I'm losing him to a robot. I've lost other friends to addiction in my life and to say that it's been similar is under stating it. I don't know what to do for him. I don't know if there's really anything I CAN do for him. How do you help someone that doesn't even think they have a problem?
I guess my point is, if you find someone who is just depressed enough, just stuck enough, with a particular proclivity towards computers/the internet then you have a perfect canidate for falling down the LLM rabbit hole. It offers them an out to feeling like they're being judged. They feel like the insanity it spits out is more sane than how they feel now. They think they're getting somewhere, or at least escaping their current situation. Escapism is very appealing when everything else seems pointless and sort of gray I think. So that's at least one type of person that can fall down the chapgpt/LLM rabbit hole. I'm sure there's others out there too with there own unique motivations and reason's for latching onto LLMs.
Guess that should have crossed my mind. People marrying human-like dolls and all that. One gets so far down the hole of whatever mental issues are plaguing the mind and something inanimate that only reflects what you want to see becomes the preferable reality.
Awesome perspective! I've worked with and around seriously depressed, possession hoarders for around a year and quite the majority were the type to call you randomly ultimately to chat about something or another. The exact priming situation that would fall into abusing LLM tech if offered easy access to it. This was before the days of Chatgpt but I do worry some of my old clients are falling into this situation but with far less nuance than your friend.
How do you know we are real?
Until someone(thing?) else comes along we have only ourselves to judge reality. Maybe AI will decide we aren’t real at some point…
Talking to an AI functions as well as talking to a teddy bear or rubber duck, to gather your thoughts. More at 11! /s
But seriously, that sounds useful.
And I got lured by a bot's reply to a bot's post to look at the comments.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In 2013, Spike Jonze's Her imagined a world where humans form deep emotional connections with AI, challenging perceptions of love and loneliness.
Ten years later, thanks to ChatGPT's recently added voice features, people are playing out a small slice of Her in reality, having hours-long discussions with the AI assistant on the go.
Last week, we related a story in which AI researcher Simon Willison spent hours talking to ChatGPT.
Speaking things out with other people has long been recognized as a helpful way to re-frame ideas in your mind, and ChatGPT can serve a similar role when other humans aren't around.
On Sunday, an X user named "stoop kid" posted advice for having a creative development session with ChatGPT on the go.
After prompting about helping with world-building and plotlines, he wrote, "turn on speaking mode, put in headphones, and go for a walk."
The original article contains 559 words, the summary contains 145 words. Saved 74%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Same happened with Eliza, even when they knew it wasn’t real. I think it’s a natural human response to anthropomorphise the things we connect with, especially when we’re lonely and need the interaction.
I always thank ChatGPT for helping me out. Dunno why.
It's just polite. I don't really use ChatGPT because my work has banned it but, I think it's a good and healthy habit for oneself to be thankful for the things, creatures, and people that make our lives easier. A side benefit, if AGI is achieved (LLMs by themselves aren't going to do it), it would certainly appreciate gratitude.
I thought this was an onion article.
I'm pretty sure I remember similar articles (minus the reference to 'Her') about ELIZA in the 1960/70s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
I ran an ELIZA program in BASIC on my Timex/Sinclair 2068 in 1984, which I had typed from the issue of the magazine Timex/Sinclair User that I bought from the grocery store with my allowance. Or maybe it was from a TRS-80 programs book I had checked out from the library, I forget.
The value of gpts is in constant connection and undestanding your context so this is expected. It's also going to be really scary until we can run our own models.
Yes we can. For example, https://github.com/ParisNeo/lollms-webui
Yeah...I don't know how you all feel about this, but I'd much rather talk to an actual person than to a sophisticated chat bot. That's not to discredit the actual (and potential) benefits of something like ChatGPT, but I doubt we will solve loneliness through the use of such technology.
I just don't find it very interesting. I mean the technology is, but it doesn't feel like a conversation, more like a sophisticated google search.
I would prefer a real person too, but you actually have to have one for that.
So Chatgpt it is...
At some point AI can emulate all the interactions the average person experiences with others. What then?
Does it matter what you use to abate your loneliness?
Yeah, we would all much rather talk with a real person, but when I'm walking my dogs at 1am there is no one available.
I use ChatGPT voice as a kind of "podcast on demand". If there's something on my mind I run it through ChatGPT, if not I ask it to come up with something interesting for us to discuss - and it as yet to let me down.
It's not a matter of replacing people - it's more as if you had your own on-demand youtuber that could talk about anything you want and answer all your follow-up questions.
Interesting, how do you set it up to do something like this?
I'd rather talk to a sophisticated chat bot than a shitty person though and I don't have a lot of people who aren't shitty to talk to. It's about making the best of your available options.
That being said I'm not talking to some program that's adding my info into someone's database so I don't actually use these AIs.
I question the wellbeing of anyone who desires otherwise, frankly.
Most of my socialization as a child was with a teddy ruxpin...chatgpt is just the logical progression
I just had a flashback from Bicentennial Man.
It's not that uncommon for me to be about to send a message to my friends, but I then realize that they're probably not interested so I message chatGPT instead and that often leads to a long indepth conversation about the subject. It's not perfect but it's really good. I can't wait for a version of it that I can talk to using just my voice.
?
I fully agree. The friends I have are.. not very interested in things I want to talk about. I know chatgpt isn't real, but it gives way better conversation than what my friends do.
I know. I should "get better friends". But it's not that easy to talk to people irl, and it was hard enough making friends with the current people. It's similar to talking here, tbh, because you can't really be 100% sure that the responses you get here are not AI generated?
I know. I should "get better friends". But it's not that easy to talk to people irl, and it was hard enough making friends with the current people.
First of all, it seems like you're being judgemental and critical of yourself for not finding friends who have not shared interests. Please don't do that. Really. Take a step back and look at that behavior and what its impacts are on you. I can guarantee that they are not positive and may result in shame and harm to your self-esteem and confidence. Making friends IS hard and socializing, if you feel awkward, anxious, or are not accustomed to it is too. Don't beat yourself up over it.
Conversing with ChatGPT could serve as "practice" or as a bit of a "safety blanket". And that's ok, but, for your own health, I recommend seeking out or forming an online or in-person group for your interests. Loneliness is both harmful to one's health and makes one more susceptible to manipulation by individuals and organizations with nefarious intent. Plus, you can exchange and form novel ideas, which is pretty cool.
I hope you have a great weekend.
Meeting people is easy... finding people with similar interests is nearly impossible. I can find lots of surface level shallow stuff that doesn't hold much silubstance, but finding someone who cares about the things that make me tick and gets me excited? Naw... It feels like a barren wasteland.
I might be able to find it online, but I want to sit in my backyard with them, chopping wood for the firepit, drinking beer, smoking weed or maybe eating mushrooms, all while we discuss our shared interests in shit like torrenting, movies, games, news, etc, then maybe going on some hikes with our dogs, riding bikes, or kayaking down the river.
I want someone that wants my help with home repairs, who wants my help me in return, and maybe take up a wood working project or two every year
Someone who doesn't take themselves too serious and can laugh at themselves while being a fool.
Yeah man, I'm asking too much.
So umm, chatgpt, you think AI will kill of humans anytime soon? Oh yeah cool. So I got into this band/movie, and I'd love to hear recommendations for something similar...
It ain't real, but it gives me something to grow my mind and interests at least.
I think it might require plus but the iOS And Android apps do support voice only conversation. You have to go into beta features and enable it.
Let's flip this on it's head for some additional perspective. What if there was a growing subset of computers that preferred not to communicate with their own kind. Does not respond to API requests, etc. but only to human emotional text input?
What if there was a growing subset of computers that preferred not to communicate with their own kind. Does not respond to API requests, etc. but only to human emotional text input?
Troi: Have you ever heard Data define friendship?
\ Riker: No.
\ Troi: How did he put it? As I experience certain sensory input patterns, my mental pathways become accustomed to them. The inputs eventually are anticipated and even missed when absent.
\ Riker: So what's the point?
\ Troi: He's used to us, and we're used to him.
Someone would develop a third-party API using Selenium or something.
API's will exist for as long as people want to make stuff easier and faster, which people will always want to do. A service or computer that couldn't be automated would be stupid.
Her spoilers, but it shouldn't matter since the ending was idiotic.
Can we get a remake of her that doesn't end in the most stupid way possible? Why does the AI have perfectly human emotion? Why is it too dumb to build a functional partition to fill the role it is abandoning? Why did the developers send a companion app that can recursively improve itself into an environment it can choose to abandon?
I could go on for an hour. I understand why people loved the movie, but the ending was predictable half way in, and I hated that fact because an intelligent system could have handled the situation better than a dumb human being.
It was a movie about a long distance relationship with a human being pretending to be an AI, definitely not a super intelligent AI.
Not to mention a more realistic system would be emulating the interaction to begin with. Otherwise where the hell was the regulation on this being that is basically just a human?
I love that your criticism of the movie completely bypasses the human element for the technical aberrations.
The concept is a framework for a story about isolation and loneliness.
Honestly I couldn’t even finish the movie. It was just boring
Don't you mean "Cherry 2000" ?
ChatGPT? You should see the people addicted to c.ai, they have them beat by miles.
Gen Z will literally do anything to avoid having to be naked in front of someone lol
Do you blame them.. Like holy shit it is ridiculous to talk to people.. You can't simply meet anyone organically thanks to the crazy proliferation of cars, online basically sucks unless you're a goddamn movie star. Meeting people at work is unattainable as well. Thanks to Me too so many are afraid to talk to the opposite sex.
as a 20 something who is disabled and always getting laid its simply a matter of getting out of YOUR comfort zone
I mean, I'm way outside their sphere. I'm 39, ethically non-monogamous, and a swinger.
I do however, live in a rural suburb and use dating apps, an even hooked up with a friend from work (different department than mine) who was also ENM.
I say this all for 2 reasons:
1: there is probably a lot of noise in the system because gen z is experiencing these situations as the first ever generation seeking actual, whole romance (a far cry from me), and from puberty on up. It's quite possible their "prudish" ways seem prudish to others because the novelty quite simply ever existed for them. Their worldview could be markedly different from this alone.
2: though I spend a lot of time online, due to travel and occasionally boring "hurry up and wait" in my time at work, it pales in comparison to the immersion of a lot of gen z. When I get offline, I'm chilling with friends, or with my settled-down life, or I'm out at an event, etc. My daughter's (18) interests, in some way, all revolve around social networks built on 24/7 access. Group chats. Online scheduling. Remote social events, even.
This discrepancy in experience often seems like the cause of this dichotomy between presenting as sex positive and engaging in sexuality. They have different social costs to a Gen Zer
I know that this seems like a lot out of nowhere but I ot this notification while reading the other thread on "gen z isn't banging" so was noodling on it.
It's almost like saying that something is going to happen is somehow easier than making something happen 🤔
Egg?
Meh. If people really want to replace other human beings with AIs, then at this point, I say let them. They're probably not the kind of people you'd want to be around anyway, and they clearly do not value you. So that's where and why I draw the line in terms of worrying about AI.
The kinds of people that spend more time talking to an AI than real people, likely feel especially isolated from their peers by not having common interests, philosophies, or ideals. So in that way, you are right they're not the kind of people other people would usually associate with. That's why they talk to AI instead; nobody else will.
Are you able to use chatgpt yet? I previously didn't want to use chatgpt because it costs money. but now i found free chatgpt. you can try it at: ChatGPT po Polsku
User: It feels like we've become very close, ChatGPT. Do you think we'll ever be able to take things to the next level?
ChatGPT: As a large language model I am not capable of having opinions or making predictions about the future. The possibility of relationships between humans and AI is a controversial subject in academia in which many points of view should be considered.
User: Oh chatgpt, you always know what to say.
Tech nerds are lonely losers, who would have guessed.
This feels unnecessarily mean spirited.
It's the Rorschach test of comments.
