Just hold it in

This has always been the point.

It has never been about which restroom trans people use, it was always been about being able to harass and vilify trans people.

The right doesn't want to just enforce gender binary, they want to erase anything and anyone that falls outside it.

Don't expect any logic from regressives. What they want is not for trans people to use a specific bathroom. They want all trans people dead.

having talked to some, they seem to want trans people detransitioned. Which is somehow more disgusting.
- Thats only their current public agenda. Trans people not existing at all is their end goal though, and every step on that path they will keep going further until there are death camps
- So that's slightly better than wanting them dead I guess

Once again, the point is to harass trans people out of public life altogether.

This isn’t about logic or fear, it’s hate and domineering. They’re nazis. No excuses.

Yeah. This kinda stuff might help sway some people but for the fascists drafting these bills, this is not a contradiction. The bathroom they want trans people to use is none. They want trans people to not exist.
Trans people are the 2025 jews.
- The original Nazis came for the trans folks before the Jews.
  It's fucking disgusting how similar it is and how few people see it
  https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-forgotten-history-of-the-worlds-first-trans-clinic/
I think bathrooms are such a common issue with bigotry because shitting is a vulnerable state where in nature makes us vulnerable to tooth and claw type predators. Therefore it's a psychological shortcut to appeal to danger and panic.
Forgive me for making an evolutionary psych argument, but I feel comfortable that I'm not overreaching.
- I heard it's why dogs often stare at you while they poop. They're like "You got my back, right?"

They dont care what bathroom a person uses. It's not about the restroom ... it's about legal harassment.

Also ... what the fuck are people doing to get gender checked and arrested? There is no law about obeying the gender sign (at least not in my state or any state I have been in). Is walking into the wrong bathroom a crime or something?

The bar owner harassed them personally. They charged them with trespassing and public intoxication, despite the fact they consumed no alcohol and were not breathalyzed.
Fuck these corrupt police, and fuck that bar owner.
- Hopefully when MAGA falls out of fashion in 3.5 years there is still enough time for lawsuits and punishment.
It has increasing been made a crime in various states to various degrees. See the woman who was arrested in the Florida statehouse and the college bathroom ban in Ohio.
- Dystopian. That's fucked.

Republican laws working as Republicans intend.

Cruelty and oppression was always the point.

Anti-trans lawmakers want to force trans men to use the women's restroom. Here’s what happened when one did.

I know this is the least bad part of the story, but it stuck out anyway:
After a lengthy drive to the bar, Strobel said he stepped inside to use the men’s room. However, there were no stalls—only urinals, rendering it inaccessible to him as a trans man.
Precisely where are men supposed to shit in this establishment?
- That's what sinks are for
- No shit.
- On the manager's desk would be ideal if you can get away with it
- Real men dont wipe their booty 🕳️, so they just #2 in the garbage can
- Plenty of trans guys have stand-to-pee devices.
They really need to get bathrooms out of their gross heads.
Thanks, much better than a meme.

American freedom is about getting arrested when peeing in the wrong public bathroom.

This is dumb as f.

Just make all male bathrooms gender neutral. Bam crisis averted.

Changing only men's bathrooms is just asking for backlash. Just make every toilet an individual unisex half bathroom with floor to ceiling walls and doors. A toilet, a sink, and a mirror. No more silent mode shits, no more pee shyness. If raising the national minimum wage only made products go up by a few cents some bathroom construction loans will barely do the same. I'll pay an extra 10 cents for my burrito... Oh that's right they already have individual bathrooms. Airports, malls, amusement parks, stadiums, music venues? ¯(ツ)/¯ get gud
- At work they put in a bunch of these during a renovation a few years ago. Only problem is we hit hard times and didn't renovate more bathrooms so these are far away. I make the trek over to them when I need to poop though. So much nicer than the men's room.
- If they changed building code so all new buildings did that it would solve the issue. but my solution won't change existing infrastructure. Its just a sign change.
i once took a shit in a unisex bathroom in a park in portland…
oddly enough, it was exactly like taking a shit in any other bathroom…
It's not dumb. It's exactly what they want: to remove trans people from public spaces entirely.
- I would consider arbitrary rules that are intentionally impossible to follow based on hate is very very dumb.
Yeah that works, but often male toilets currently only have one stall. Would need to shift that balance for this to be an effective strategy.
- Or north Carolina where no stalls in bars. I guess men dont poop.
Woman don't want to be stuck in a small space with strange men.
- Exactly! That's why elevators, train-cars, busses and airplanes are always segregated by sex.
  Being serious for a moment I just want to point out the irony in using the threat of male violence as an excuse to uphold patriarchy rather than a rational for dismantling it.
- women
  men
  what's the difference? Gender is a social construct.
- That's why they said "all male bathrooms" and not "all bathrooms"

We all knew this would happen.

None of this would happen if we just did it in public. Just saying. /s
- Oh, no, not falling for this one again. I just got off the list.

They're obsessed with trans women.

That trans men also exist breaks them.

This would never have happened had a trans woman entered the men's.

I wouldn't be surprised if this idiot of a bar owner doesn't even realize trans men exist and assumed this dude was amab and female identifying or something.

I’m pretty sure that recent UK Supreme Court case ended up making it illegal for trans men to use any public restroom. My understanding is that it forces trans women to use the men’s but has a carve out saying that trans men can’t use the women’s.

Can you provide a source? I'm curious to read more.
- The whole situation is a dehumanizing mess.
  A trans man’s “biological sex” would be legally regarded as “female,” but he may be excluded from “female” spaces under the law if his “gender reassignment process has given [him] a masculine appearance or attributes,” the judges found.
  People forget trans men exist. We’re invisible. Fuck that judge, we know what pronoun the source is replacing.

The hate is always their point

They (person in photo) can grow better facial hair than me. Fuck me man

He*

SO TMEN DO EXIST, HUH

It’s like their weird concept of immigrants that are simultaneously lazy non-contributors and taking our jerbs.

If I was visibly trans or questioned, I'd rather shit myself than go to a public bathroom at this point.

Not sure why you are getting down voted. I had friends faced with very uncomfortable choices if they were unable to get home at time.
- Yeah. Idk, probably because I said I'm trans. Lol Haters gonna hate. But it really sucks that we have to go through this.

I agree, we should all be using squat toilets. These newfangled high-seat toilets are bad for our posture.
define 'their biology'

Go fuck yourself
Better yet, get off of Lemmy, this isn't a place for this transphobe shit.
The audacity of the Fucking piece of shit above me.
'Lady' implies a feminine gender of a high social or economical standing. As gender and sex aren't the same, no, that's incorrect. A more accurate description would be 'man'
lemmy.world account
- Oh no, spoOOooOooky!
  I think they're just an asshole though.