5d ago

Ouuu the LIIIIINEEEE!!!

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I've heard these described as a "legally acceptable way of filtering out people with autism" and man I've not seen them the same way since.
- I have had a theory that the personality tests are just to have an excuse to discriminate with plausible deniability.
  
  Yep quite a few years back I had two jobs lined up , already got the first but the second one wanted a second interview after I filled in a 50 page personality test. I felt the first offer would be interesting and better paid but wanted to see what they offered. So I said why not just be completely honest instead of faking it :) very interesting interview, I just told them that whoever sold them this idea was probably a very good salesman. The tool is just pointless. I got to much risk taking etc , yea I like skydiving.. I'm not skydiving at work. .. if you want people to bullshit you it's pretty good though haha
  
  This is absolutely the case. In the documentary “The Fog of War” (a great documentary IMO) Robert McNamara explains how he helped create a personality test to screen applicants for Ford (I think it was them).
  One of the questions was “Would you rather be a coal miner or a florist?”. McNamara says his family had owned a florist but the answer they wanted coal miner. For “obvious reasons”.
  
  "Yeah I want to be a coal miner. I want to fuck up my health, the health of the environment, the health of anyone nearby, all just to make somebody else a profit with a product that is more expensive than the clean alternatives"
  
  I don't think the reason is obvious at all. Is it because coal mining is hard work?
  
  I think it was a clumsy attempt to filter out gay men.
  
  Lol. Homophobes are funny. Thanks for the explanation.
- yep when I applied to work at target a few years ago, there should have been absolutely no reason for them to not consider me but I took that thiny veiled screening test and wow I suddenly don't get a response.
  fuck corpos man
- That explains a LOT.
- Not really, in this case the more literally you read the question the better. It asks what responsibility you acquire when you have a job not why you got the job.
  
  It’s not about that. It’s because people with autism rarely have a first instinct to give fake answers custom made exactly for the person telling you to fill it out like nd ppl do
  Ppl with autism have this honesty instinct and that is prone to be rather inconvenient in life. Some are very idealistic some are desperate to be accepted as nd and overdo the ‚lying selfish’ part and become big assholes
  Obviously we all know we are here for ourselves but we have to create an illusion that we value our employer. People with autism are a bit worse at these games so it is best that they pair with adhd ppl and complement each other
  I was an advisor of sorts for someone with autism for a really long time to the point I was sometimes writing text messages word by word for them because they couldn’t really ever make them sound natural. I had no idea about autism back then though. They are in finance now I think doing pretty ok but not typical for sure and they are a bit of example that there are autistic assholes out there
  Seriously there is almost nothing worse than autistic person who falls into the incel Tate hole. Not only they are still awkward as hell but also now they are caricature of some kind of macho guy in a mix that is truly hard on anyone’s nerves. On the plus side they are rather confused than evil still because it’s just a trying to fit in mask after all
- Not that I necessarily think they're trying to discriminate against people with autism giving blood, but there's one of these on the blood donation intake questionnaire.
  Intake Questionnaire: In the last year, have you used any illegal drugs via needle injection?
  Me: No.
  IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who uses illegal drugs via needle injection?
  Me (married): Well, it's not as if I can keep an eye on my wife 24/7... you know what, I'm just going to mark it No.
  IQ: In the last year, have you had sex for money?
  Me: No.
  IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who has had sex for money?
  Me: I'M TELLING YOU, I CAN'T KEEP AN EYE ON HER AT ALL TIMES, SO FUNDAMENTALLY I CANNOT GIVE A CERTAIN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION!
  
  Sounds like you need to improve your communication with your wife about her potential IV drug use and extramarital affairs.
  
  I don't watch her 24 hours a day! I can't say, with certainty, that she doesn't transform into a dragon and fight gremlins in a parallel dimension when I'm not around! It's a fundamentally impossible question to answer, short of "To the best of my knowledge..."
  
  ...now I want to hear more about what kind of gremlins a dragon fights...
  
  You can't even say the same thing about yourself. Maybe you have a form of sleepwalking where you unknowingly wander off at night and become a heroin user, turning tricks to pay for it.
  
  Dammit, you're right! I might not even have a legit job! All that money in my bank account might be from blackout bus station blow jobs!
  
  Your entire life could be the vivid dream of one sick child in a hospital bed somewhere...
  
  That one at least has a reasonably understandable medical purpose, all donated blood is tested for the kinds of diseases that these questions are meant to attmpt to screen for, and any amount of testing that can be avoided early saves them more money to spend on other lifesaving pursuits.
  
  Well in the case of blood donation it's more about not taking/giving blood thzt might have ISTs.
  The questions you listes are "interesting" but i think something closer to the issue here (i.e filtering out people out of bigottry) would be like "in the last 4 months have you had sex with someone of the dame sex ?"
  
  I dont know if I'd describe her as a "dame" exactly. But yes, thank you for asking. 🤓
  
  This just in folks: you can't give blood if you had sex with higher class older women.
  
  ok this one is kinda funny
- I think it would just filter people who know what the correct answer is supposed to be.
  
  I don't disagree, I just also believe that the people who don't know what the expected answer is are proportionally more likely to be on the spectrum than not.
  
  in my experience, I'm the autistic one, and I have to explain it to the normies what's going on with these kinds of questions.
  Truth is irrelevant.
  Innocence proves nothing.
  Being right doesn't matter.
- In what way? Are autistic people more likely to value company profits over personal goals?
  
  My understanding is more that it presents a "logically correct" choice (making money to pay bills and be generally... alive) and a "socially correct" choice (the corporate answer) to filter people out.
  
  No, but they’re more likely to answer honestly (that they get a job for wage).
- Masking takes care of this, but possibly not for all.

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