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  • When my co-workers start ranting about how that America needs to "start making it's own shit and stop relying on other countries!" as if that wasn't the whole point of it's empire.

  • One of the biggest things that makes me certain communism is the way forward is every single argument against it is an argument from ignorance or racism. I've never heard an anti-com argument that doesn't boil down around 4ish "answers."

    1: "They aren't white, so their achievements don't count" (Usually cloaked in implication rather than outright stated, but there's always an air of "If western europe couldn't do it, no one could." (Usually with bonus mentions of the Nordic countries for good measure))

    2: "My grandma's friend's dentist used to have an egg monopoly and they tell me gommulism is bad." (Usually said by people who have rejected every single survey and statistic about socialist countries, but a personal anecdote is obviously far more correct than the aggregated opinions of thousands or millions)

    3: "it isn't real socialism because I've got my own personal definition of the term that is inherently contradictory and impossible to meet." (Usually used by western "leftists" who mask their western chauvanism behind impossible standards. Usually overlaps a lot with the first one.)

    4: "Saint Karl Marx of Orthodox Marxist Faith said that this wasn't real socialism" (See also: Trots making similar claims with Trotsky.)(Pretty basic stuff here, treating communist theory like some kind of religion or infallible Truth rather than a scientific analysis of class structure and society. The Holy Prophet of Marxism said this, therefore you are wrong and following evil false prophets, like Stalin. Bonus points if they claim that Marx said this or that, when he actually said the exact opposite in his writings.)

    I'm sure there are more, but those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.

  • "the communist countries are capitalist actually" is my favourite one

    • Yeah they don't even believe that. Even if they call themselves communists/socialists they believe communist countries are intrinsically more exploitative than liberal western countries.

      Also it's really fun to watch them essentially say "all these Asians think they're communists but they don't understand society like me, a person with a big white brain"

  • My favorite is the supposed """"leftist""" who thinks China can't be communist because they're taking too long to transition away from capitalism. The timeline given? A decade is "too long."

    Motherfucker, Marx and Engles in the Communist Manifesto hypothesized the transition from capitalism to socialism alone would take centuries, nevermind from socialism to communism. You cannot create a classless, stateless, moneyless society without reactionaries undermining you from all sides. Even the United States and France with their bourgeois revolutions saw multiple attempts by the aristocracy to retake their positions.

    • Comments like that make me wonder, if it is so easy, why haven't these western chauvinists done a full communism already? Surely their superior western genes and culture would give them the ability to do communism in months, not years.

      • Exactly lol. They can't even get a donation bin going, yet lecture AES nations about how not communist they are because they won't just push the big, red, "gommunism now!" button.

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