GNOME Merge Requests Opened That Would Drop X.Org Session Support

Time for Nvidia to step up their driver game... shrugs

Oh hey, it's this months regularly scheduled Wayland drama!

They still haven't solved the problem of a Gnome Shell crash taking down my entire session with it. I need to be able to restart the shell independently of the Wayland compositor for me to switch.

Well let's hope that massively improves the Wayland experience then. I tried it last week and still had flickering screens, laggy windows, and crashing games. In the current state it would be unacceptable for me to switch

What's everyone's Wayland showstopper?

I'm holding out for better autoclickers/macro recorders before I go to Wayland

honestly feels like Wayland won't get many of the fixes it needs until everyone is forced onto it and sends in bug reports. That's gonna suck for lots of people including me but maybe it's now or never

Fix the issues with Wayland and everyone will happily make the switch.

This is great. X11 needs to die in modern DEs so we can all move to Wayland for good.

Maybe this will help people finally make their apps work on Wayland. I hate so much to install a "privacy-friendly" software or even something related to security and discover it only works under X.

So what is the name the new GNOME that supports X11?

Edit: I appreciate the alternative desktops, and they are a great reminder (feel free to keep them coming.)
My point was that open source projects tend to fork every time a less than popular decision is made. Often, removing support for something is seen as a less popular decision. I anticipate GNOME will fork over this. I have no inside knowledge and will not be leading the charge.

Guys, am I the only one?

I dont care about X11. But some weird things just dont work.

I have a stupid AMD mobile GPU which seems to neither support virtualization, nor Wine games.

Also, I only had one keyboard/mouse input at a time, so either shift or running for example. People told me thats because of XWayland.

Is that a thing? This would be a total dealbreaker

Until barrier/synergy works on wayland, I've got to stick with X

This is the best summary I could come up with:

A set of merge requests were opened that would effectively drop X.Org (X11) session support for the GNOME desktop and once that code is removed making it a Wayland-only desktop environment.

Going along with Fedora 40 looking to disable the GNOME X11 session support (and also making KDE Plasma 6 Wayland-only for Fedora), upstream GNOME is evaluating the prospect of disabling and then removing their X11 session support.

This merge request would remove the X11 session targets within gnome-session: "This is the first step towards deprecating the x11 session, the systemd targets are removed, but the x11 functionality is still there in so you can restore the x11 session by installing the targets in the appropriate place on your own.

That was followed by this merge request that would land later on -- more than likely, one cycle later -- for actually removing the X11 session code.

Some concerns were raised already how this could impact downstream desktops like Budgie and Pantheon that haven't yet fully transitioned over to Wayland.

In any event we'll see where the discussions lead but it's sure looking like 2024 will be the year that GNOME goes Wayland-only.

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I have to growl at someone

Any X11 forwarding support or emulation of some kind provided by Wayland? Or will apps detect this over the terminal as they usually currently do and render on the remote machine?

Unpopular opinion but

WE DO NOT BREAK USERSPACE! Seriously. How hard is this rule to understand?

• Linus Torvalds

Forcing Nvidia to update drivers by breaking your system otherwise us not the correct way to do it.

I thought Wayland still didn't work with nvidia cards?

Sounds good!

That's a hard work to try to be compatible with X11 and Wayland.

I hope that could simplify that.

FOSS linux gods will bring it back the first week, change my mind

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