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Trump official declaring ‘anyone who preaches hate for America’ will be deported worries users: ‘They just skip the First Amendment’

www.latintimes.com

Trump Official Declaring 'Anyone Who Preaches Hate for America' Will Be Deported Worries Users: 'They Just Skip the First Amendment'

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28249577

Top Trump official Stephen Miller's recent declaration that anyone who "preaches hate for America" will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.
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Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.
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The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump's platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller's is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

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Disagreeing with the dear leader will also be the same as preaching hate for America
Not clapping enthusiastic enough will also be the same as preaching hate for America

What does "hate for america" even mean? Does "I think mcdonalds fries are garbage" count? or "republicans are whiny little maggots"?
- Pretty sure this comment alone is like 5 reasons by itself

If the feds show up to collect me for voicing my opinion. There will be no questions asked. You come through that door. Some of you are not going home.

Skip the first and head right for the second I see.

Trump once said that this guy, Kapo Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller, told him that he'd like to see America's population reduced from the current 335 million down to 100 million.
- LOL, PeeWee Himmler. I'm stealing that one.... yoink 🤣
- Surely you guys can take out Stephen Miller before he takes out 225 million of you?
  
  He's essentially daring us to use the 2nd Amendment, which is exactly what they want. Then they can declare Martial Law, and suspend the Mid-term elections.
  They cant allow the 2026 Mid-Term to happen. Its shaping up to be a bloodbath for MAGA, and if they lose either chamber, the Dems will control investigative committees with subpoena and arrest power. So they are looking for an excuse to suspend elections for the first time in our history.
  So they will be trying to goad us into violence through their words and actions, and eventually they will incite violence at the protests, which will be nearly daily by next summer. They have to time it carefully, and suspend elections close enough to election day that the courts can't react in time. That means next summer will be really ugly.
  This is just the start.

"Worries users" - is the USA an operating system now?
Is AI writing these posts? The statement makes sense in context in the full post, but the headline absolutely does not - leads me to believe yes, AI slop.

We don't hate America. We hate you.

The Talibangelical issues a Fatwah.

Whats that joke Reagan cracked back in the 80s about Russian Soviets not allowed to criticise their government?
Yea, huh. Wonder what happened to that.

Really hate the milktoast way these articles are written. "critics warning" "ignited alarm online" "backlash has ignited debate" ffs just say the Trump admin announced the end of free speech. That is literally what happened.
Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.
FFS WE'VE BEEN THERE THIS ISN'T VEERING THIS IS FOLLOWING A STRAIGHT LINE ALONG THE PATH WE'VE ALREADY BEEN ON FUCK
- milktoast is a pretty milquetoast breakfast, though i will admit it actually pairs well with a milk steak boiled hard

I don't hate America. America is a continent. It would be really silly to hate an entire continent.
- Was not expecting the purposefully obtuse European response in this thread.

That goes against the first amendment, which I think makes it anti-american. Can Stephen Miller start by deporting himself?
- they're no longer following the Constitution, in case anyone has noticed ...
  
  They never were. Unless they added things that helped them or a cohort at a given time. cf: prohibition, its repeal, etc.
  
  Which makes them anti-American.
  
  They always hated what the Constitution actually has in it, like no endorsement of their god, for instance.
- It is never not projection.
- He will be jailed with the rest when the time comes

What are the "users" in this context?

They are going to milk the extrajudicial rendition until there is an actual outbreak of violence to try and stop it.
Then Trump will send those people involved into a gulag, too.
- Agreed the purpose is to cause people to act and then move in to crush them. All the while playing the victim. Of course that play doesn't always work.

Trump isn't America, the government isn't America, fuck them. The people are America.
- Unless the people do something about, Trump and the government are exactly America. If no one stops it and just complies, then it is endorsement by default.
  
  Yeah, fuck them too then. I'm not standing for this shit.
- Sadly the people with the big guns and the people in control of the internet and power grid and infrastructure and money and banks and social media listen to that guy. What you gonna do about it?
  
  nice try, fbi

I love America. I swore to defend it against all enemies. I do not love what it is doing or who the government defines as enemies.
- When will you recognize that the government is behaving as if citizens are the enemy and itself is actually doing the same things enemies do..
  
  That's pretty much what they said.
- I love who the government defines as enemies. I don't love that the government defines them as enemies.

Fuck America, Fuck Trump, Fuck these nazi pricks, and congratz, you'll never have to deport me, I won't ever visit your shithole of a country.

All of these MAGAts need to be in jail.

i love the USA and everything the constitution stands for. i don't agree with how this administration is running the government in some respects.
- "What constitution?" - current government
- Straight to El Salvador jail
- "Some". Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Fuck Steven Millier the majority of Americans hate the POS fucktard! The majority of Americans hate the way the moronic fat orange slob trump has changed democracy in America and find him repulsive, disgusting and a complete fucking idiot along with his cabal of asshat republicans who can fucking shove christianity, their Bible and their ideology up their privileged white asses! Nothing but POS cowards, white trash who hide behind their walls and use the moron low IQ ICE Agents who probably average an IQ of 2! Can't wait to see America fight back...in time those agents will regret their I'll will!
- Sir, please step this way. Your flight to El Salvador leaves from gate 88.

I wish I could say I'm surprised.

I hate America. Come at me bro.

But he's doing it right now??? Ohh he's conflating the current administration with America even though all their values are in complete contradiction to everything this country is supposed to stand for. Got it.

So let's say that SCOTUS rules that this policy infringes on the first amendment. Then they deport another person. Who's to stop doing it?
- Who watches the watchmen...

This is the same bogus and weaponizable logic that legitimate criticism of Israel's genocide = 'antisemitism' is. If you want to call legitimate criticism of the illegal and unethical actions of this POTUS administration 'hate for America', the notion that deportations (of US-born people) are going to ramp up shortly just became very real for me