FYI Hex is now federating again and already bringing their best! Stay classy hex as always 😎

It's already turned into a shitshow, they've been brigading enmasse, downvoting and trolling just like they used to. Guess some things never change, eh?
- Boy, I sure do remember when the beehaw admins were fussing with the Lemmy developers (which for the record I actually kind of take the Lemmy devs’ side of), and the Lemmy devs held up Hexbear as an instance that has been with us since the beginning, the ones who were really worthy of honors of being true believers as far as what Lemmy should stand for. Unlike beehaw and their moderation philosophy. That was a super normal and defensible thing for them to say.
- at least the hexies do it with their hex accounts unlike the ml lot that smurf as other instances
  
  Don't worry, they'll get banned on their Hexbear accounts and switch back to their .ml and lemm.ee sockpuppets to continue their shitty behaviour soon enough.
- I'm all for shitting on hxbr but that instance literally cannot use the downvote function. It's more likely that hexbear-related whining is just more unpopular on the non-tankie instances than you think.
  
  You are aware most Hexbears have alts on instances that don't have downvotes disabled though, right? They do so to get around the wide defederation of their instance.

Please pray for those of us who mod political communities that Hexbear federates with 🙏
- Get them to ban your account. Then their users will not be able to see your posts or comments, to reply to. Ironically, the best gift they gave me.
  EDIT: Goddamnit! They unbanned me just now.
  
  That's actually an awesome idea. Not having to deal with another childish ML screaming "anarkiddie" when you point out that China isn't communist. Or the breathless "but-but-but someday they will be!!!!! 1!" Because as we all know, those with power love to give it up.
  
  Fair warning: You need to actually be dangerous to their thought bubble to eat a ban. Just insulting them won't suffice, they'll leave that up to make criticism of their position look irate and irrational, what you need to do is to go to asklemmygrad or such and get both up- and downvotes. Make them question.
  
  I do have to ask, if the admins here are banned from Hexbear, why are we (dbzer0) federated with them?
  Not an attempt at a gotcha, I'm just curious why we are.

I instance banned that person for 2 weeks (13 days expiration). Told blaze to kill himself because... he criticizied ML moderation. Oh the horror.
What a fucking ghoul. The hexbear admins do bumfuck-nothing about their users, so we have to deal with their trash. Yes yes i know there are some good users there, but in general it's just not worth it. They have horrible moderation.
I'd love to defederate but a lot of users would like to stay (ie they're bad but have some good content) so i made this issue to remedy the problem: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5578 (not just for hexbear, ml or etc; also some other instances but that's besides the point)
(PS: @blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com i hope you don't mind me using your screenshot, i can delete if you want)
- Honestly I was kinda sad to see hexbear posts again popping up on my feed, even though I enjoyed witnessing their 🤡 shit before. Just decided that my feed is happier without them and blocked the instance in Voyager app
  
  The problem is, blocking instances still allow their comments to be seen
  
  If only instance blocking was properly built into lemmy itself. I wonder if summit has that feature.
- That one person disagreeing with you has some interesting takes. They don't seem to grasp the concept of users of an instance disagreeing with each other, only of instances disagreeing with other instances like rival hiveminds.
  
  No shade to them, but i think we're seeing this from different viewpoints; i see this from a personal preference standpoint, and they see this from some moderation stance, which was not the point at all. This isn't meant to replace defederations.

I don't know this to be the case, but I've long assumed that the average age on Hexbear is about 15, and have yet to find any reason to assume otherwise.
- Yeah I love the demands for revolutionary violence from people who have never been in a fight, let alone killed someone. Simply expressing that killing people, because I think I am right, is a last resort, got a bunch of .ml people on my case. I straight asked if they had killed anyone, or been in a situation where violence directed towards them put their life at risk. They all (like 5 people nothing crazy) said no, yet insisted they were up to the task, and knew they would be fine because it was necessary.
  Big "if I was there when that mass shooter showed up, the shooter would have been the only dead" energy.

Makes me wish I bid on that domain auction...$2000 for some peace and quiet sounds like a nice deal.
- iirc the auction didn't actually matter because the admin came back in time

Now these are the friendly interactions I almost started to miss.

But couldn't they just be defederated? Isn't that how it works?
- Yea, and hex and grad of the Tankie Triad are generally pretty widely defederated from. db0 is one notable instance that doesn't and this screenshot is from .ml's side of the modlog who, should go without saying, is perfectly fine federating with the rest of the triad
  
  Trust me, we all hate them too. Not even for political positions anymore (eh, i've heard worse).
  Personally i'd love to defederate, but i know a vocal minority on our instance like them, so we'll have to cope for now.
  Someone's eventually going to initiate a vote on /0 governance to defederate (i know what i'm voting lol) but i also made this github issue if you're interested https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5578

This person will stop after their 2 week ban expires.

It just sounds like the one user, really... But I'm not a mod, so I'm not seeing the whole picture.
- It's just an example, this kind of behavior is pervasive throughout the Tankie Triad, (hex, grad and .ml) because the admins and mods will not do anything and even encourage it, provided you're in the "in" Tankie crowd ofc
  Check out the rest of the documentation here at !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works and you'll see it's a pattern
  
  It would be nice if we could filter the modlog by what instance the moderated user was from. But lemmy devs will never do something that makes their people hold accountability. Hell the only reason mod actions are obfuscated is because of dessalines doing nothing with his life other than censoring people.
  
  Yikes. Yeah I'll look for other communities.