Germany approves bringing coal-fired power plants back online this winter
Germany's cabinet on Wednesday approved putting on-reserve lignite-fired power plants back online from October until the end of March 2024, the economy ministry said, as a step to replace scarce natural gas this winter and avoid shortages.
Anti-nuclear power activism is a fossil fuel industry op.
Wow so dumb! Yes, fuck progress and fuck nuclear energy! Let's burn coal again like in the dark ages!
Shutting down the nuclear plants is probably the worst thing the Germans have done. At least it's in the top3.
Worse than... Literal genocide?
Fun fact: Coal Ash Is More Radioactive Than Nuclear Waste
No it isn't and it will never be. Doesn't matter how many time you repeat that lie.
The actual fact (very clearly told in the studies that are then brought up to justify the rediculous claim) is: Coal power plants 60 years ago (that's how old the study is) spread more radioactivity via fly ash, then escapes through the massive concrete walls of a running reactor. That's it. No mention of actual waste or anything else.
So coal power is more radioactive than nuclear power only if nuclear power would not create any waste at all and also not contaminate anything that has to be build back and cared for. So basically in a computer game where we you just click on it to remove it from your map, not in any reality.
Seriously has anyone actually read the shit you parrot or is there really a fundamental lack of ability to read beyond clickbait headlines?
PS: Also that radioactivity by fly-ash is based on the natural radioactity contained in earth and stone. Can you imagine the difference in radiation spread by you compared to the world around you? Yeah, there is none... with very small variations by which layer of earth you look at.
So basically you can also pretend that picking up a rock and throwing it at your head is me radiating my surroundings...
Actually that isn't even true. Because decades of nuclear testing has actual incresed the radiation in our natural surroundings, so layers of earth buried for quite some time actually contain lower radiation. If they had done the same study just two decades later then that fly-ash would not even have registered against the normal radiation level around us.
In that top three is also my previous Audi A6
Cool cool cool. I love the environment, unless it's too expensive.
They're playing the long game, at this rate they'll soon have no winter to worry about, it will be 25°C in the winter and there's no heating needed so no more energy demand spikes! /S
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And another thread of "oh no! they fuck the environment and us all" when the reality is the lowest coal use in Germany for decades. With a hike in reduction the moment these shitty nuclear reactors providing basically nothing (2% in the months they were still running) but getting renewable energy shut down were finally gone
Reactivating coal power plants for winter in case they should be needed is not the same as actually burning coal. Not that any of your favorite propagandists would ever tell you that secret.
It takes month to start a coal power plant, so you hace to always keep it on even if you don't need power. Do you know how they keep it on? By burning coal.
Do you understand how coal power plants work?
Do you understand how reality works? You know this strange thing were coal usage in Germany is going down constantly while everyone is screaming at the top of their lungs how Germany is burning more coal?
Makes sense.
I'm sure they'll go on improving to avoid such band-aids dependent on coal or Russian gas.
Meanwhile in my country, coal be like breakfast cereal. I have moved to a 100% renewable area though. Can't even get a gas stove 👍
coal be like breakfast cereal
I'm struggling to understand this metaphor
The thing is that even with 100% renewables you still need to have thermal power stations.
Right now it's coal but I hopefully the German will be able to switch to biomass or hydrogen stations.
Which country?
Australia.
Where the coal comes from and what your country does with it ain't our problem. We'll even discount you if you're going through it quick enough.
There is no one to blame but Putin.
This is an emergency procedure due to Russia's invasion in Ukraine. Without the invasion, the backup coal plants would just stay backup. As coal plants need weeks to start up, they cannot just be turned on when needed. They need to be turned on early and likely run with low power through the winter, just in case they might be needed. This is bad too. This is due to Putin's war.
It's silly to make connections to the 1986 & 2011 nuclear exit, when the cause for this short-term measure is a recent event. Without Russia invading Ukraine, the coal plants would stay off.
Tbf Germany is also very much in fault at failing to build nuclear power plants and fueling anti nuclear sentiment among their population.
Putin isn't to blame for decades of terrible energy politics and Germany becoming depended on Russian energy even though everybody told us it was a bad idea.
Germany made this bed with Russia intentionally. Now they have to sleep in it. Trump dunked on them at the time for it: https://youtu.be/9LLZBVTid4I?si=VSB156ePNHI61R8c
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It wasn't Putin who bombed Nordstream nor was it Putin who decided to make Germany completely forget the principle of energy independence. Germany fucked themselves and now people are looking for excuses.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
BERLIN, Oct 4 (Reuters) - Germany's cabinet on Wednesday approved putting on-reserve lignite-fired power plants back online from October until the end of March 2024, the economy ministry said, as a step to replace scarce natural gas this winter and avoid shortages.
In the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine and a sudden drop in Russian gas imports to Germany, Berlin reactivated coal-fired power plants and extended their lifespans, with a total output of 1.9 gigawatt hours generated last winter.
Despite gas bottlenecks easing since last winter with new liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal deliveries, coal-fired power plans will be reactivated and the government will make proposals by summer next year on how to offset increased carbon dioxide these plants will generate this winter.
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