Good time to switch to a European mail provider Tuta with their 62% discount.
Tuta: Turn ON privacy for free with secure emails, calendars & contacts | Tuta
Tuta is a end-to-end-encryption mail and calendar provider. They recently wrote a good blog-post about changing to european services.
I really dislike Tuta for their refusal to support SMTP/IMAP and PGP, let alone CalDAV or CardDAV. Posteo's approach is way better.
Posteo has no custom domain support, deal breaker for me. As far as I understand they don't support IMAP in order to keep their encryption working, and I believe others like Proton do the same thing. Since their webapp is good and they even have an official client on Fdroid, I don't think it's a big deal
For people who want custom domain support, as well as SMTP/IMAP, but still euro-based, Nubo may be more what you're looking for if you're OK with dealing with a newer company.
Just started a test subscription with posteo... I'm rather disappointed they don't allow to view the email previews in vertical columns. Their layout is horizontal only and can't be changed. It's a very small pet peeve, but i wasn't expecting not being able to change that :(
What do you use smtp/imap for?
Email apps.
You probably don't need that legendary plan though. You can get the regular plan for the same price later, it offers more than enough for a regular user. As of now, try it for free. Fuck FOMO.
lol I was literally FOMOing on this, and it's so true that I don't even need the legendary plan. Thank you for bringing me back to reality.
Tuta kept giving me ads despite being a premium user and when I finally decided to leave they made it impossible to cancel. I had to delete my account to get out of the bind.
Are you referring to their newsletter? I just set a spam filtering rule to automatically discard those. Also can you elaborate more on it being hard to cancel your subscription? I can do it very easily.
I do have my own list of complaints about Tuta, but so far they are the best I've found
That's not the only one, but I refuse workarounds on services I pay for out of principle.
Sigh, I have just one problem with Tuta - why such a stupid, stupid name?! I can already imagine myself on the phone saying "yes, T. U. T. A. Tuta dot com"
I sadly agree. It is an odd choice for a name. Tutanota wasn't much better either, their former name. Apparently "tuta" means secure in Latin. However as I am using my own custom domain it doesn't bother me very much personally as it's not a part of my digital identity 😅
Oh! I didn't know it has a latin origin. Then I guess it makes sense but still ...
I got a question about custom domains for email. I know getting trust if you host your own email server is a difficult thing to do. When you use a custom domain on for example tuta, are you piggy backing off of their trust as a email server, or do you run into the same issue?
It really is. Could've been worse, like having some "I love Tuta" stickers. smh
TIL: they used to be called Tutanota. The word “Tuta” comes from Latin, which roughly translates into “Safe”. This acts as a nice successor to what “Tutanota” meant in Latin, which was “Secure Note”.
How about some pcloud in these trying times?
I don't know if keemailme is better but that's another option from them.
Yeah good point. If tuta is a big throw off they do offer:
coolName@keemail[.]me
Don't get me started! In Romanian 'tuta' is a designation for a very stupid woman! 🤷♂️
They have other domains available.
Oh wow
Thanks so much that’s a great discount.
It’s fun to see how people rage over corporations who sell their data and let people use their products for free. And when you want to use more private products, they complain about how they need to pay for it.
I have been using Tuta for a couple of years now, when I decided to not use Google anymore and I think Tuta is worth the money.
You need to use Tuta’s application because they can’t provide their security with a other applications.
Even Gmail allows to use the email client of your choice, going for an email provider that force you to use their app is a bummer
I checked out their business offering because I was curious and apparently they don't even support single sign-on.
What the hell‽ How do they expect to sell to businesses if they can even support the most basic features like SSO in 2025?
This is made worse by the fact that they don't support phishing resistant authentication like passkeys. Single sign on could have solved this since login (including stuff like mfa) would be handled by idP
What SSO are you expecting? Google? Microsoft? GitHub? You see the problem here?
The missing passkey is certainly something they can work on but this is definitely not a critical feature
I would want to be able to use any of the common IdPs. That does indeed include Google Identity, Microsoft Entra ID, GitHub, Okta, AWS, but also self hosted (and often open source) IdPs like AD FS, Keycloak, Shibboleth, Gluu Server, and so on.
It's ridiculous that a supposed business plan doesn't support SSO to even generic spec compliant SAML or OIDC IdPs. It's not exactly rocket science.
There is absolutely no way in hell we would ever use this at work when it lacks even rudimentary SSO.
It might be targeted more towards smaller businesses but more and more companies are moving towards SSO and passwordless so they should implement it.
I have been using Tuta since the start of the year when I decided it was time to remove myself from Big Tech as much as I can. Really highly recommend them!
This has always been under good advisement, for privacy.
My Proton account still runs til November (it's cancelled) this year, would be nice to subscribe to Tuta and activate it starting October so I cpuld move stuff. Guess I have to hope for other deals in the future
Did they ever say if they will end the old 1EUR/month premium plan? I've had it for years now and when I clicked the GIF to look at what the legendary plan price was, it warned me my current plan doesn't exist anymore
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