4d ago

Commerce secretary: No one but ‘fraudsters’ would complain about missed Social Security check

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At one point in the wide-ranging, nearly two-hour conversation, Lutnick also said that if Social Security “didn’t send out their checks this month,” his “mother-in-law, who’s 94, she wouldn’t call and complain.”
“She’d think something got messed up, and she’ll get it next month. A fraudster always makes the loudest noise, screaming, yelling and complaining,” the billionaire businessman said.
“Anybody who’s been in the payment system and the processes, who knows the easiest way to find the fraudster is to stop payments and listen, because whoever screams is the one stealing,” he said. “Because my mother-in-law’s not calling, come on, your mother, 80-year-olds, 90-year-olds, they trust the government.”

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4d ago

Commerce secretary: No one but ‘fraudsters’ would complain about missed Social Security check

thehill.com /homenews/administration/5208187-commerce-secretary-social-security-fraud/

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4d ago

Commerce secretary: No one but ‘fraudsters’ would complain about missed Social Security check

thehill.com /homenews/administration/5208187-commerce-secretary-social-security-fraud/

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What the FUCK???
They’re setting up the narrative so that when the public hears real people suffering, they ignore them.
This is bad. Really really bad.
- It's also an extremely long shot, isn't it? Trying to convince people that old people won't complain about things, and that they trust the government. That's about as likely as trying to convince a Republican that they want a Tesla.
  Our only saving grace is that they're reeeally dumb sometimes.
  
  It's slightly different I think.
  Those complaining are "fraudsters" and do not "like their government"
  Stop assuming they are dumb, these guys are trying to strip money from America's neediest while suggesting complaining is either criminal or unpatriotic.
  
  I hope it’s a long shot. I hope people are smart enough to see through this.
  But if people were able to see through the obvious lies by these Nazis, the USA wouldn’t be here now.
- Or arrest them.

"People who live paycheck to paycheck? I don't believe they exist. "
What are the poor landlords going to do when their entire retirement home is delinquent on rent? lol

“Because my mother-in-law’s not calling, come on, your mother, 80-year-olds, 90-year-olds, they trust the government.”
Literally anyone who is relying on those funds because they don't have a pension or savings will be wondering where the fuck it is when it doesn't get deposited on time.
It's also laughable to suggest that old people trust the government en masse; a lot of those people were anti-government back in the day and probably didn't change much. My own parents are nearly 70, they definitely don't trust the government.
- They were raised by people who went through the depression. “Trust the government” with what is rightfully their money is laughable.
  
  Yeah, my grandma was born in 1931. She's still alive; she has pretty bad dementia now, but when I was a teenager she didn't trust the government either.
- You know, the people who remember the Vietnam War, Nixon’s pardon, and the Tuskegee Syphilis study. They definitely trust the government.
  
  They don't remember shit because of all the lead in the air up until the '80s.
- They trust the cheques to come on time because they always have. They don't "trust the government" in any broad sense.

I have been on disability for 13 years. My doctors and the SSA said I will never work again. I would complain about a missing SS check, but only, you know, until I couldn't afford my medicine and died.
- Dying is the point. This man wants you to die.
  
  Oh I'm well aware. This is pretty much straight up Kill the Poor only without the satire.

"only Fraudsters would complain about [not receiving money which is theirs, which they've been paying their entire lives into, and are legally entitled to receive, because again, it's their money]."
What a fucking joke.

Right, it's not like I literally need that money to pay my rent or anything.

People elected on a "the government is lying to you" platform are saying that their electors trust the government...

My dad will call the next day that it’s missing. He’s 85. Ran out of his 401k years ago.
- But is his son a billionaire though? Thought so.
  /s if needed ^^

lol, my mom is rich. She doesn't have fuck-you money but she's fine, always will be.
She also micromanages everything and if her SS check didn't hit her account it would become her all encompassing mission to find out what happened. She doesn't scream or yell but I've seen her go low-key Karen before and she would be on the phone every day until it got resolved.
- Who is she going to call when they close that office and fire all the staff?

I am going to LOVE seeing all the old “fraudsters” who voted for them getting fed up and ventilating some politicians. But they’re probably trying to incite violence anyways so they can have a crackdown, so… yeah… we’re fucked six ways from Sunday

What the fuck

“Anybody who’s been in the payment system and the processes, who knows the easiest way to find the fraudster is to stop payments and listen, because whoever screams is the one stealing,” he said. “Because my mother-in-law’s not calling, come on, your mother, 80-year-olds, 90-year-olds, they trust the government.”
Even trump voters don't trust the government, and everyone else sure as fuck doesn't trust the trump government...

Or, you know, people that haven't received their ss checks ...

9/11 must give you brain damage

The Commerce secretary was also asked about the idea of a sovereign wealth fund — which Trump pitched earlier this year — and whether it could be a balance sheet for Social Security, as its trust funds are projected to be depleted in about a decade.
“We have a budget deficit of $2 trillion. So, Donald Trump wants to knock down the $2 trillion, and then he’s focused about the 36 trillion, which the Social Security is part of it,” Lutnick said this week, referring to the nation’s $36 trillion-plus debt
So invest in bitcoin apparently, because the entire social security trust is now an NFT.

Oh, cool. So my fear my husband's ssdi is just not going to show up one day is 100 percent going to happen entirely.
Cool.
: shrieking :

I see absolutely NO Downside to taking away people's Social Security. It's not like a LARGE chunk of them own TONS of Guns and are Desperate to use them!
- Nah. Poised with starving and losing their home, the gun owning elderly will just sit back.