3d ago

Judge warns of consequences if Trump administration violated deportation order

A federal judge warned of "consequences" if the Trump administration violated court orders, but did not specify what those consequences would be or what it would take for the judge to enact them.

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Stop warning, start consequenting.
- I know, right? Just skip straight to the point.
- Much to late for that.

Are the consequences in the room with us now?
- Yes. Yes, they are. Look around the room. See how you see a whole bunch of nothing? There's your consequences.
  
  Spoooooky

It's cool that you'll get no-knock raided for missing a date at county court, but these guys can do whatever they want and only get "warned of consequences"

Anyone wanna guess what those "Consequences" are going to be?
A sternly worded written order DEMANDING compliance, with random words in ALL CAPS to show how serious they are this time.
A repeat of the orders demanding compliance, but adding the words "OR ELSE" to the end.
A $1000 fine for the first dozen or so violations, followed by nothing at all.
A contempt of court charge for Trump that actually can't be enforced because he's the sitting President.
A press release saying that Trump needs to abide by the court's decisions.
Absolutely fucking nothing at all.
- Makes you wish the shooter had practiced more.
  
  On the one hand, yeah. On the other hand, would it somehow unleash Stephen Miller even more?
- Last I checked he can’t be charged with anything as sitting President, not that it can’t be enforced. The SC said that as long as he’s acting in the official capacity of President, and they’re the only ones that can define that on a case by case basis, then it’s official and legal. It’ll be his subordinates that’ll be charged.
  Edit: even my grasp of the situation here seems flimsy to me, so someone more dialed in or informed feel free to re-educate me on the subject.
  
  Theoretically, you can still sue the office of the President, just not Trump himself.
  So, you know. You can cost the taxpayers money, but not the person making the terrible costly decisions
  
  Last I checked he can’t be charged with anything as sitting President, not that it can’t be enforced.
  Whichever way it works. The end result is the same.

They already did. Why is there all these warnings and super warnings and ultimatums. Because there are separate laws for us and them.
- Man, if you guys rip on me 14 or 15 more times, I'm outta here
- Maybe you would get tons of warnings and no consequences if you broke the law. Have you tried?
  
  If you're white, you might actually get one if you're lucky.

Been waiting for that for over 4 years now, somehow I don't believe this either...I wonder why?

If the justice system worked the same way for everyone as it did for trump, it would be no different than not existing at all.
- If the judiciary didn't exist at all, you know there would be some vigilante justice being meted out on a regular basis.
  Just saying.
  
  There's already been a couple attempts on his life, so your theory holds ground.

Consequences? I don't know the meaning of the word.
-Trump probably
- How much could a consequence be? 10 dollars?
  -Trump probably
- The only Consequences Trump has faced was watching Bob Barker on TV in the 60's.
  Remember to spay and neuter your fascists!

Warnings mean nothing to those people

Consequences? As in, sequences of cons? Because I've seen a lot of those already - Trump's whole damn life is a con sequence...

The executive thinks it hot shit but tell me corpos wouldn't lose their shit if judges were suddenly hostile towards them.
- Seriously, if I were a large company owner that had to pay a settlement right now I wouldn't. I'd just say the executive branch showed the courts aren't a governing body any more. We killed 17 workers? Oops, who cares. Their families? Fuck em
  
  What power do courts actually have to enforce judgements? That'll be the deciding factor. If it's just bailiffs/sheriffs/cops in general, I find it unlikely they'd do anything.

Finally, trump is really gonna get a stern talking to this time!

I'm sure those harsh words will really sting. I wonder how long until people realize these are just appeasment tactics

lol ok
- let it play out. so far the judiciary has been the only administrative bulwark. we will know so much more very shortly and that will dictate what hand is forced next.
  edit: not defending the democrats one bit, but they may be looking for judicially adjudicated constitutional overreach by the executive. when that happens, if the dems dont react with leadership and direction, the only thing left is mass street action (bets on this actually getting organized?) and then there will almost certainly be real violence - which may open up the fourth box.
  
  Hopefully, they start chipping away at his staff and administration. But who am I kidding.