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2d ago

White House says Musk is not DOGE employee, has no authority to make decisions

www.reuters.com reuters.com

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Right…

then why is he?
- Because they're lying. They proved time and again that blatantly and shamelessly lying is a viable and effective strategy with no negative consequences, so they're doing it again.
  
  no i know. but sometimes the only way to fight lies is to go, "you see it!?"

Our Executive branch cannot tell its ass from a hole in the ground.
- The goal is to confuse and exhaust everyone while they go about their tasks
  
  The goal in this case is create a false legal framework that allows Musk to continue stealing the US government.
  If theyre not called out for clearly lying, this is the framework that will clear them at the SCOTUS.
- Can't tell a burro from a burrow.
- Can confirm

The executive branch has no inherent authority to create agencies, let alone hire employees, aside from those already authorized by Congress.
The only thing the White House can do is create advisory committees, which have no authority to execute policy. There is established case law on this. They must have a written charter, all their work is subject to FOI, and there is a limit on the number and pay set by Congress.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/1008
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10183
https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/presidential-advisory-committee
- The White House essentially rebranded an existing entity that was congressionally appropriated to make the DOGE:
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Digital_Service
  
  God damn that's so much more cringe than I realized.
  The EO admits the president can't even rename it, can only give it an "alternative" "public" name. Lol.

So he is personally liable for the damages he causes?

Well that makes sense. (F)elon doesnt actually do anything at any of his other companies. Why would that be different here?

Free Speech in trump era: you can say whatever you want wherever you want, nobody has to believe you. Words are meaningless, money and gun speak for themselves.

If the people who were jumping at any excuse to call out a swamp can't see it now when it is in plain sight, it is because they don't want to.

Yeah, sure, whatever.

Cool, so we can arrest him then….

I was hoping it'd be the inevitable story about Elon falling out of favor.
- Or out a window, since he likes Russia's disciplinary style so much.
  
  Check out the Sad Oligarch podcast. It was about just this phenomena. Very interesting.

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