Microsoft Edge is actually good lmao

Hi, do you have a moment to talk about Arch Linux? I got a pamphlet and reading material for you.
- It's ironic because you are actually more original/funny than that guy. All he does is complain about Windows
  
  Did you know that using Windows makes your balls shrink?
  
  alr alr, but have you known that I use Arch, btw?
  
  Honestly, I think hitting people with pros of Linux more than flaws/complaints about windows is a better strategy. Negativity is usually just hit with more negativity, not a very strong approach lol
- Yes, a 3000 page pamphlet
  
  No no, all you'd ever get from an Arch user is single postit that says "got a question? RTFM!"
  Source: I use Arch btw
  
  LFS

Yep. It's me. Do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and savior, GNU/Linux?
- Or as I like to call it GNU+Linux.
  
  No I'm pretty sure it's GNU divided by Linux
- Bloatware! Even assembly language is barely acceptable, best is directly changing the mechanical relays in your Zuse one, naturally. If you wanna get crazy, change the celluloid strip with another program & get Doom to run on it.
  
  Porque no los dos?

Those bricks are laid incredibly poorly, look at all those gaps
- Typical Windows app 🧌
- AND at least 2 of them are already cracked!
- In german we don't say shitty brick wall, we say 'Landhauscharme' and I think it's beautiful.
  
  Ich hab das jetzt als Land Hausch Arme gelesen und war verwirrt
- Thank you!
  My first thought was, this is incredibly bad bricklaying, there's so much missing mortar and uneven alignment.
- British bricklayer.

Try to understand, not everyone likes windows. They require quite a bit of maintenance, are usually insecure and speaking personally, some setups just don't look good. It's why some people opt for skylights instead.
- Honestly windows is so slow at this point, we just use door. Why waste all that energy and power just to get the thing off the ground when alternatives exist?
- Windows is an anachronism. Since I even got my wife and her gaming PC on the light side with Garuda Linux, works like a charm. After that she wanted me to install that "cool blank desktop" I have on my work laptop on her business machine in the shop. Now she loves bspwm. Learning doesn't make life harder per se, it's fun.

Windows bad, give Internet points!
- Edge browser bad, give Internet points!
  
  God damn kids these days.
  Internet Explorer was bad, give me internet points.
  
  I'm an edgy corporate fuckboy, give Internet points!
  
  The funny thing is: Edge isn't actually a bad browser. It's basically Chrome with custom Microsoft UI. So it behaves like pretty much all other browsers except Firefox.
  
  Firefox good, Steam deck good, unity bad!

This is hilarious.
My husband runs our Lemmy instance, and he's subscribed to the Linux community, which is one of the most active on Lemmy (I probably don't need to tell you that.) I'm basically just here for memes and I ultimately blocked the Linux community because it was all over my feed. I'm a normie and I just don't care about Linux whatsoever, not enough for every other post to be about it anyway.
- ALL ABOARD THE WINDOWS SUX COX TRAIN! CHOO CHOO MFs!!
  
  WhO cArEs iF cOrPoRaTiOnS rUiN eVeRyThInG
  
  Can I get a CHOOO CHOOOO!?
  
  Sorry to be clear, I am not saying Linux sucks. I just don't have an opinion on desktop operating systems. And I was tired of every other post on my feed being about operating systems instead of the dumb internet pictures that I love and crave.
- I enjoy Linux memes.
  But not when the only joke they can muster being "Other OS bad for [insert dumb false argument here]"
  
  insert thing that hasn't happened since Windows 7 here
  
  The templeOS jokes kill another piece of me everytime I read them
- Yeah it's like a person who likes squid pizza and attempts to insert their love for the pizza every sentence they utter.
  Some of us just like a simple pineapple pizza. And we're too deep into it you cannot change us without changing the very atoms that comprise our earthly bodies.

My linux config does give me a boner tho
- Don't fuck the toaster
  
  If God didn't want me to fuck the toaster, why did he make it so damn sexy?
  
  The... Toaster? Why the fuck would a Toaster run linux?
  
  But.. that’s how we get Battle Star Galactica... right?

Okay, but windows has become alarmingly invasive and dumbed down.
I don’t hate windows as much as I hate Microsoft.
ReactOS is a cool project and I hope it goes somewhere.
- ReactOS is dead and will go nowhere.
  The reason I say this is that I've been following them for something like 15+ years by this point, and they haven't made any perceptible progress in that time. They're at exactly the same point now where they were 15 years ago.
  
  I completely forgot about this little gem. I used to follow it too, but just dropped it along the way.
  
  Maybe they'll launch with Starfield
- Yes, Windows has become alarmingly invasive and dumbed down.
  But how difficult is it to use actual arguments to prove they did instead of pulling completely false ones out of your ass?
  I make fun of Windows search all the time because it deserves it.
  But I'm not going to make fun of Windows update because it doesn't directly tell you what they changed. Since a single google search can give you the answer.
  Anyway, Linux memes should be about Linux, not Windows. It is almost like those Linuxians are jealous Windows has a ginormous market share while their respective distro does not.
  
  What market share are you talking about?
  Overall Linux runs the world. So I am generally confused.

Edge isn't a bad browser. However it's based on Chromium so using it just feeds into the Chromium monopoly.
Firefox or Safari is the only way.
- Safari hell no. Apple shows no sign of disappearing so Safari is safe.
  Edge is also tracking you, a lot.
- I tried switching to Firefox some weeks ago but deinstalled it immediately after realising that it's DNS doesn't work. My ISP is censoring some 🏴‍☠️ websites and I can only visit them by not using my ISP's dns service.
  No matter which DNS i selected in the browser settings I always got an error saying that Firefox couldn't reach the DNS. I will stick to Opera GX now 🤷‍♂️
  Edit: it's funny how the butthurt Firefox users downvote me for just talking about my experience with the browser.
  
  you could try setting the DNS over HTTP settings to off. That might solve the issues. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dns-over-https
  
  Sounds like a typical layer 8 issue to me 🤔
  
  firefox uses doh, not regular dns
  
  It might be a good idea to get a good VPN for any of those sites (even the streaming ones). No hate if you ran into an issue with FF. Every now and then I do see some PCs act weird with FF DNS options. Never able to figure out what causes them to not work correctly while most other PCs are working fine on the same local network. Opera and Opera GX "feel" too "busy" for me personally with just all the random things on the UI and features. I support people using anything that isn't official Chrome at this point.
  If you don't already have a VPN, here is a list article with more than a few options and give some basic info on stuff like if they keep logs of IPs and for how long. Some of them also have additional DNS options for removing ads. https://torrentfreak.com/best-vpn-anonymous-no-logging/
  
  it's funny how the butthurt Firefox users downvote me for just talking about my experience with the browser.
  Nobody is downvoting you for just talking. They're downvoting you because you very clearly lack knowledge in what you're doing but are blaming it on the browser.

I use arch btw…
- Holy hell, what is that instance
  
  Glorious master linux distribution. You should try it. Or install Gentoo.

Hell no it ain't
- It's Chrome, but Microsoft. So no it's not good but not because of speed or technical quality.

.world really is the Reddit of lemmy smdh my damn head.

I mean I know people who are still trying to find bypasses to get around Microsoft and their online only strategy.
If you're still doing this, you.need to try Linux.
- Agreed. I've been slowly moving the machines onto nixOS, and I'm reformatting an older Mac for a neighbor on nixOS as well. On the livecd it runs impressively fast, but on OSX it's so slow as to be unusable. Windows is now so actively hostile that it's time to make the jump.
  
  Uhm, but why NixOS?
- I know people who are still trying to find bypasses so they can use their audio in Linux.
  Time for them to switch to Windows.
  
  In the 10-ish years I use Linux, I've never had any sound issues. I really don't get how people think this is still an issue.
  
  Time to switch to a Linux distro that works. There's plenty good ones out there, your people must be picking the shit ones... Or compiling their own and badly.
  
  Any distro that uses Pipewire (most at this point) is incredibly stable with the audio setup.
  PulseAudio was a bit rough at the beginning, but it got much better. But Pipewire at this point is hands down amazing.

Username checks out.
- Ok, boomer.

Come to Linux mountain charrrleeee
- Well that's a fucking reference i don't expect to see. It may be time to check those vids again unless they got taken down
  
  Yeah? You also like touching rusty spoons?

I don't have a problem with Edge itself. We use it at work and it's fine. I have a problem with microsoft constantly trying to trick me into using it among all their other shitty practices.
- My dad came to me in a panic "All of my passwords are gone!!!" turns out macroshaft kicked chrome off default he was using edge without knowing. It actually took me awhile to realize it was edge too because the UI is so similar. Edge does have a really big unmovable spam toolbar along the side so that was pretty much my only major tell.
  
  The toolbar can be turned off with 1 click

I like the memes, but that's it. I use Linux, sure, but I also have to use Windows for a few programs because WINE doesn't work with said programs, and the alternatives aren't the best
With that being said, would I prefer Linux to be mainstream? Yes. Will it ever be? Probably not. Too many people just want something that works out of the box and don't want to spend hours fixing some obscure bug.
I am a nerd. Therefore, I am okay spending time working on my machine and making sure everything runs well. I have previously looked at an OS that doesn't seem to work or is starting to have issues and completely swap to a different distro using a base I have used and know will work 100% of the time
- Will it ever be? Probably not.
  [Android has entered the chat.]
  Yes. I know that's not what you meant. You meant desktop. But then desktop is slightly less relevant than it was maybe 10 or 15 years ago
- My experience with Linux is following a guide and sudo apt-get update failing. Like step goddamn 2.
  Also some fucking around with machines at work trying to mount flash drives and the guide they gave us saying use sda1 but actually it's sdb0 that works or some such bullshit.
  Oh and having to root chmod everything to even be able to touch it with SCP.
  
  Sda1 is always juat an example. if you already have sda hard drive then your flash drive becomes sdb, etc. But on some syatems it could even read hd0 1.2.etc But why isn't your DE just automounting the media?
- I’m a dev and I already have a headache at my work. If I have to spend time to install a hundreds of dependencies on my personal computer if I want to do something I rather would kill myself. That’s why macOS is just a superior of all OS.
  
  MacOS is just a whole different set of problems. The coefficient of problems always tends toward 1.0
  
  Just because a garden is walled doesn't mean it's better. It just means that you need specialty solutions instead of pre-baked solutions that are on the open market
  I agree that the UX is better on MacOS, but it's because of the immense amount of hand-holdong
  
  Is macOS different from linux(in command line things and such, not the GUI)?
  
  Expected if I raise other OS than Linux in
  Lemmy I would get downvoted

The guy that became a Marxist because of Linux?
- Didn't check that far but it was a lot of generic posts from 2 users with similar names which could be summarised as "Windows bad" and "Linux good", with some variations including windows programs. Checked their accounts and they appear utterly obsessed with whining about Windows.
  Like I get it. Windows sucks. Doesn't mean I want my entire feed full of a kid spamming their vitriol for it.
  
  if hating something is your entire personality i am not talking to you regardless of what that thing is

When it comes to browsing the web and showing content and having good add-ons, edge does a good job.
But why does it need to constantly advertise itself and other microsoft things to me? It's annoying when Firefox does this, but it feels like edge does it almost every time I open it.
- Plus I believe you can turn it off in firefox

just block me now then I don't have any other personality traits

To be honest I'd still be on Windows if MS hadn't screwed me out of the license I bought through the MS store and attached to my MS account. I do kinda miss the new Bing assistant in Edge, that was neat to screw around with for free while I was on that OS
- There are .deb and .rpm versions of Edge for Linux. Doesn't get mentioned on the main download site until you scroll below the Mac/iPhone/Android options.
- I do kinda miss the new Bing assistant in Edge, that was neat to screw around with for free while I was on that OS
  You can use it on other browsers with a little bit of work, changing user agents and things like that.

Okay but hear me out, Linux.

I use arch btw Edge sucks
- Edge is a decent browser. Second best after Firefox.
  
  I recently switched from brave too Firefox And I love it so far
  But edge, especially the new chromium based one isn't half bad and I believe it's actually faster then chrome
  And certainly a hell of a lot better then internet explorer
  
  The cool thing about browser choice is there are no "correct" answers -- it's personal preference.
  So don't let the fanboys get you down. You're entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong.

Since you asked, I recommend Fedora.

What about using Edge....on Linux....🤔
- I can only get so hard

We all need to revert back to Windows Vista.

The one thing I cannot stand about Edge is that if you want to use it for some specific webapps, but still use another browser as the system default, it will always open links in Edge.
For example, I use Teams and Outlook for work. I have each of them as a PWA installed as a webapp. I used to have them via Edge, but use Chrome for everything else. But anytime I clicked on a link in an email or Teams message, it would open a new Edge window and ignore my system settings.
To be clear, I'm doing this on Ubuntu, and not Windows. So we're not dealing with that anti-user choice crap that Microsoft does with Edge over and over.

Edge only exists to download Firefox.

The Chromium Edge really started to win me over a bit with how well they have done vertical tabs (Brave only just recently got something even close). Was cool up until Microsoft really seems like they have gotten insecure about trying to be popular again. I fix people's computers so I see it more than a normal user would, so I will just say that now. But it feels like every time I open Edge it seems to just bukkake my eyes with "helpful" pop-ups trying sooo bad to trick me into turning on more and more data collection "features". It is already annoying that they try to cover up the area where the download starts if it detects that it is on the Chrome download page.
But they took what was looking to be a shockingly good alt to Chrome, and I have even gone out of my way from time to time to let customers know that they don't really need Chrome and Edge. Instead I try to at least offer Firefox as a second option. As I do find that if a site is messed up for Chromium based browsers FF might at least give them a usable site until Edge/Chrome starts working again.
That being said, I am really curious how the original Edge would work if they had kept at it. It sucked at first because all browsers suck for awhile when new. The extensions being through the app store seemed about as normal as what Apple does with Safari. But the Edge extensions didn't require first signing into the store in order to get free ones. So that was much less frustrating. Jumping to Chromium just further enabled Google to be on more fuck shit.

I prefer to use edge over chrome due to windows integration and you can install chrome addons. But my default would always be firefox. I only use edge over certain sites that have issues with firefox.

I'm y'all's worst nightmare. I would gladly let them collect my data

Yea I do get a little tired of all the Windows-hate haha
- Yeah these ads that they shoved in my start menu and lockscreen are totally legit! I can't wait to consoom!
  
  It's so goddamn annoying because I can block it on my personal computer but then they get me at work.
  I was pretty ambivalent on Linux until then, but between that and the growing support for Linux gaming I'm going to have to make the plunge.
  
  Have you ever been on a date with someone who'd spend most the time talking shit about their ex?
  
  Yep cause my comment was "windows is perfect"
  Didn't take me much effort to reach a near ad-free experience within the OS anyway
- It's not hate. It's just that when you know things, windows is simply insufferable and not working. And they make the system worse with each update.
  
  "not working"?
  amazing perspective
  
  Bullshit
- It's crazy how comfortable the Linux community on Lemmy seems to be with forever living in Windows' shadow.
  At least that's the impression you get with how often their conversations only revolve around "Windows bad".
- It's ironic cause it is almost guaranteed most people on here use windows.
- It's going to be the death of lemmy's potential growth.

Ew.

IE actually outperformed chrome for a good amount of time but the circlejerk was so strong nobody believed me even as I provided evidence.

Fuck the Linux supremacists, but edge is horrible, haven't had a worse ux on any other browser
- amen
- It's literally a reskinned chrome.

that's why I have Linux into my list of blocked communities

Lemmy is more left than reddit, suck it up buttercup.
- This is entirely unrelated to the post lmao.
  You must be lost.
  
  No linux, gnu, and fsf are all just code commies. But commies for sure.
  does that help connect the dots?

- Lemmy as a platform doesn't have any focus, what are you talking about?

- Compiling anything is a minority group even in the Linux community. Sounds like a massive headache.

Just block the user, then you don't have to deal with them
- That's what the meme says they did.
  
  Then why post frustration? block and move on

- I do those things while I organize them in emacs. Best of both worlds!

And communism...