Trump suggests his plan for Gaza Strip is to ‘clean out the whole thing’

I'm married to a Palestinian and so I'm hyper-aware about lip service, and I think you're right. My perception is that they are weak-minded people too naive or stupid to realize they've been conned into sitting out the election by a right-wing psyop. And they also have this mentality that a candidate has to be perfect in every way (by their standards) or they won't sully their purity by voting for them. They're the same sort of people who shop at Whole Foods because anything less than perfect should never pass their lips, and don't notice or care that it's just funnelling their money to Bezos.

It was death by 1000 cuts, but let's not pretend Gaza wasn't a major contributing factor on top of a feels-over-reals vibecession due to pandemic inflation.

No, the problem is that Democrats were saying "Old Man Bad."

Then when he stepped aside and Harris was the only other option because there was no time for a primary, Dems largely said "No, Black Woman Worse! Hey, How about we vote for the even older white guy instead? Can I have a puppy?"

And when they didn't get a puppy, they pulled a temper tantrum and stayed home.

Pretending like Biden or Harris would have done anything different is laughable

No, just your opinions. Tell me, if Biden wouldn't have done anything different, why did trump have to announce a change in what we planned on doing?

These hot takes are so laughably uninformed that it's no wonder trump won.

If only enough people voted for the Democrats, Americans would be living in a much better place.

I mean, literally, yes. Most of the EOs that Trump has signed won't be felt by the majority but trans kids are about to be bullied and committing suicide in much greater numbers, Latino Americans are going to have their families torn apart or be deported along with their family, careers are about to be ended for thousands, cancer research is getting paused, medications are going to get more expensive, progress on carbon reduction is grinding to a halt and probably reversing, and Federal aid is going to be tied to how much Presidential ass you're willing to kiss. And this is with barely any legislation being passed! It would have been 10x better keeping the status quo!

You are confusing in power with absolute power. It's a very common issue with dishonest people.

Remember when Biden shut down the concentration camps on our southern border during his term?

Oh right, he didnt.

Sorry the prospect of keeping a literal fascist out of the most powerful office in the world didn't get you off, I guess? Sorry you don't understand the difference between neoliberalism and fascism? Sorry you prefer fascism? I don't really understand what y'all's hangup was.

This is a democratic republic, or well it was... The people (the demos in democratic), absolutely deserve much of the blame for how they voted.

A functioning adult brain shouldn't need to be "motivated" to do what is obviously the better choice for them, their family, the country and the world. And yet here we are, a land of endless useful idiots, thinking they are making a stand while doing exactly what empowers the corporate oligarchy the most.

That’s definitely the point.

You don’t know me.

Are you making up a totally different discussion? Yes, you are...

Oh you never saw the deal Biden worked out for peace? I know, I know, it not perfect and fighting will continue. But do not fucking lie and say Biden was not tring for peace.

Silence, because we all told you Biden's plan was exactly the same?

Then we should do the math.

If “both sides” are the same on this issue, we cast aside those factors because they cancel out. That means you and yours actively sought the degradation of democracy, rolling back environmental protections, authoritarianism, fascism, a active and open kleptocracy, removal of rights for lgbtq people, and whatever other destructive fuckery this administration does.

Sound about right? I mean, if you hate one side for being genocidal, and equally hate the other side for the same, then surely you would have had the intelligence to choose based on the remaining issues?

You did choose, by action or inaction, and it’s plainly obvious what you wanted.

Silence, because we all told you Biden’s plan was exactly the same?

Biden's administration has been attempting to hash out a peace deal with the support of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and others.

This genocide you claim to stand against is abso-fucking-lutely going to get worse now that Trump is in office. Hiding behind 'this was always going to happen' is a shameful and cowardly stance to take and a pathetic attempt to absolve yourselves of any blame.

Biden's plan was to move every currently living being away from Gaza?

Harris is not a real estate developer

You want evidence that things would have been different with Harris when no president ever shunned Israel for anything it did, let alone a brutal war in reply to an all-out attack. There is no precedent for what you wanted Biden and Harris to do, it is not something presidents are willing to do, even if they theoretically have that power and influence. Biden even did restrain Israel somewhat, but it wasn't enough and looked weak. Not like the new guy, right?

Love the comments. Keep blaming brown people for your own fuckups 👍🏽

If I lost against Trump, I'd also be in the "screw it, yall are on your own" train with 'em

This is an incredibly apathetic approach to genocide.

There are an estimated 2,000,000 people in the Gaza strip.

We can continue this discussion in 4 years.

If that's what you think, then stay tuned!

We wouldn't be having this conversation if it were an unmitigated genocide because every Palestinian would already be dead.

Israel, courtesy of the US, has enough firepower to wipe out the West Bank and Gaza several times over. Yet it never happens. Why?

Perhaps, Netanyahu and his ilk have something to gain by keeping the conflict active.

But ultimately they want to take the territory. They dream of making Gaza, specifically its beach, a tourist destination.

Trump is going to help make all of this happen sooner than it would have. He wants peace in the Middle East to be one of his legacies and the quickest means to that end is to give Israel what it wants.

It is a genocide. Two things can be true at once.

Repeatedly targeting civilian populations with remote strikes amounts to genocide. Thousands of children have been murdered. Kicking Palestinians out of there homes for Israeli settlers is ethnic cleansing.

Yep, calling it a genocide in 2024 is going to look like the dumbest take ever.

Genocide denial is disgusting behavior.

are you a paid actor or just blind? clear the fog in your small brain and rethink about what is going on

If that's what you think, then stay tuned!

Guess you missed this then Biden Announces Ceasefire Deal Between Hamas, Israel in Farewell Address > U.S. Department of Defense > Defense Department News https://search.app/v45EpUMM6EFahfwTA

lol

One of the J6 asswipes was shot and killed, for resisting arrest, in Hobart, IN and thankfully by a sheriff.

Albert Einstein was 100% correct when he sent his letter to the New York Times. However, even he could not stop family blood feud over a pile of dried rocks. Within in the EU and EEC, we finally learned to maintain peace between the former foes and the Irish are trying to tell the idiots in the Middle East to end the stupidity.