2w ago

Just a friendly wave and a goose-step.

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This is perfect advice for the numerous idiots downplaying the Nazi salute
- Careful now, they might double down and say work is too woke now
  
  Are you telling me that they "wOnt WaNT To wORk AnYmORe"
  
  Or they might get to work and find that anyone willing to speak accepts them...

Better yet, go to Germany and do it.
- i want consies arrested, i agree

He could tattoo "NAZI" on his forehead and some people will tell you that's actually "IZVN" upside down
- "Well what about that tattoo on your chest? Doesn't it say 'Die Bart, die'?"
  "No! That's German for 'The Bart. The."
  
  Nobody who speaks German could be a monster.
  
  Wouldn't it be Der Bart Der
- ∀
- He obviously meant grammar nazi when he started making and wearing clothes with "is a nazi" written on them

- I've seen several people try to defend it by saying that the Nazi salute doesn't start with your hand over your heart... Well this gif really clears things up.
  
  I have a Jewish friend that is defending it saying that his arms were sideways and the Nazi salute is in front. I sent him this and he said.... Welp, I guess it's time to move.
  
  Also, while I"m no physiotherapist, it looks like musk's shoulder mobility is hindered a bit. Maybe its the suit/shoulderpads, maybe he's just really out of shape. Which is to say that he knew that he had to get his hand up over his head to get the gesture right. It's significantly more effort than you'd do by accident.
- To the person that made this gif: thank you for your service. You had to pour over far more footage of this nonsense than anybody should ever have to.
  
  Pore*
- Playing devil's advocate, it appears Hitler doesn't usually start with an open palm on his heart, but one perpendicular to his chest.
  
  But sometimes he just goes straight from arms down to the salute. There's some variability.
  Anyway, this is splitting hairs to an obscene degree. You have to contort your brain to not see this as a Nazi salute, ignoring the context or not, and in any other time a public figure would have at least apologized for doing this if they weren't impeached/dismissed/fired.
  
  Why do these behind Hitler do something very different in response?
  
  And really, I doubt Elon has studied the "proper" way to seig heil.

What if you do it outside of the Israeli embassy as your heart goes out to the hostages?
- The ADL thinks that's fine.
  
  Only if you're musk, or another right wing power player. No one else is allowed.

I might get a promotion for it at my job.
- Silicone Valley?
  
  Nope, just a factory in Magooland lol

don't worry, he did it at work and he was fine!

Well, at least wait until it's part of the law requiring all businesses to use it as formal greetings.
- Ah, yes, the Trump salute. You raise your outstretched right arm and say "hail Trump". This is based on the ancient roman salute and nothing else.
  
  Salve arancium, placere dimitte nobis! ...?

If it honks like a goose and it steps like a goose, there's not too many things it could be.
- But what if he's just imitating a goose with an outstretched neck?
  
  You might be onto something. The capricious assholery of geese is well-known, and he's also got that bit spot on.

I'm afraid a lot of people will

I wonder if a bunch of pro palestianian protestors started "giving their hearts" to the people of Israel, if suddenly it would have a different meaning.

Arguing whether or not the sky is in fact blue is a deliberate distraction.

Oh funny an entire video made to make his gesture seem like a nazi one. Oh wait they also have a time machine and somehow travelled back almost a year to post the video. Whack! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4&t=2735s
- Love the Cody showdy
- it's funny how he made that video explode in the algorithm. they were smart to quickly change the thumbnail too. I'm glad; it's an awesome showdy.

Musk is a troll.
Don't feed the troll.
Every bit of energy and attention expended on the sieg heil is a bit of energy and attention that's NOT being expended on any of the actions being taken and policies being enacted by Trump and the oligarchs right this moment for the direct and explicit purpose of destroying liberty and democracy in the US.
The sieg heil is performative. It's a symbol. In and of itself, it causes no direct harm.
However, a terrifying number of the actions that Trump is actually taking - directives he's issuing and policies he's implementing -are causing and will cause direct and measurable harm.
They need to be the focus, and the sieg heil is a distraction from them.
And that's not an accident. Musk is a troll.
- Musk is running the U.S. government. Dismissing someone that dangerous as just a troll is a mistake.
  
  He definitely shouldn't be dismissed and people are right to be absolutely pissed at the open nazism, but also the sieg heil is an extremely obvious distraction.
  
  There's a world of difference between "a troll" and "just a troll." I expect you know that.
  And you've evaded my point, so I'll repeat it, broken down into bite-sized pieces:
  The sieg heil didn't cause direct and measurable harm in and of itself.
  Meanwhile, there are many things that this administration is actively doing right this moment that are causing and will cause direct and measurable harm.
  Every single bit of energy and attention spent on the sieg heil is energy and attention NOT spent on them.
  That's not an accident.
- The sieg heil is performative. It's a symbol. In and of itself, it causes no direct harm.
  It enables and empowers nazis. A group that is known to take violent action when they feel they can.
  And yes. It is a performance. To draw attention away from the meme coin. A giant grift on people and a way to bribe the grifters.
  
  It enables and empowers nazis. A group that is known to take violent action when feeling they can.
  And as a bonus, all of those little nazi muffins that were either in jail or otherwise hampered by their earned felony are now free to go bananas, including acquiring arms stockpiles.
  Numerous intelligence reports had found that those far right leaders were somewhat stifled by the J6 implications, and their organizations driven somewhat underground. Orange Caesar just took the lid off.
- It depends how you use the moment. I like Die Zeit's article about it (in German, paywall can be bypassed with archive websites). They use it as on opportunity to discuss the context where it was made - an extreme right political event - and expose how mainstream media has helped normalizing nazi symbology by amplifying the gaslighting.

The average MAGAt is going to really confused when they find out who runs Israel.

I'm one of the few users here whose not taken in by the Elon hate-train and I often find myself here fighting against a windmill defending him against baseless accusations but in this case there's nothing to defend - that was a nazi salute.
Now, as to what he was thinking when he did that I have no idea. Maybe he still feels like that edgy 15 year old that he no longer is. In fact - kind of seems like he immediately regreted it and came up with the "my heart belongs to you" excuse. Either way, that was incredibly stupid and he should face serious reputational damage for it from his own side but probably doesn't.
- Or, he did a Nazi salute because, and I know this is some outside the box, crazy thinking: He’s a Nazi.
  I know, right? Racist, apartheid profiteer, open supporter of racist far right parties across the world, frequent promoter & amplifier of far right wing and openly racist & anti-Semitic voices on his social media platform? The guy who just bought his way into power and has funded the rise of mask-off fascism in America? That guy is a Nazi? No way.
  
  checks musks twitter history and his implemented moderation policies in action
  Hmm if you put it like that, it seems like he only did it since he was zonked out of his mind on drugs which caused him to do a perfectly normal everyday american gesture 3 times in a row and not apologize for it at all days later.
- He did not regret it. He did it again a second time to the audience behind him. Stop defending him.
- Don't make excuses for the rat, he's born into privilege and wants to keep it that way.
  The bloke parades around expecting people to believe he's a top tier gamer, being able to put in 16+ hours a day grinding at POE2 whilst being a CEO of multiple companies. All the while not being able to comprehend one of the most used interfaces on that platform.
  But yeah nah, he's a good bloke. I'm sure he's done something good in he's lifetime.
  
  Elon yearns for public recognition and admiration. He tried many different approaches. Being an unhinged fascist worked best for him so far.
  
  What excuses have I been making?

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