Fediverse drama

This post was getting attention.

Then this exchange by the mod

I tried to post and well well well, post was locked. https://lemmy.world/modlog

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Wugmeister @lemmy.dbzer0.com

3w ago

Fediverse drama rule

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Commercial spam seems unlikely, but it's certainly low quality content. We already know federation works, this is the equivalent of the "this is Bob, copy and paste Bob to all your friends' profiles" comment from the 2000s.
- All the links are directed to social.heise.de, so it's definitely got spammy characteristics imo, even if it's not commercial spam. While awareness raising about federation functionality is probably fine, it's also presumably meant to direct traffic to that specific instance, which is arguably a form of advertising.
  
  That's just how Mastodon tags work, they get turned into HTML <a> tag with the href pointing to the local instance's view of that tag. Lemmy then turns that HTML into markdown, hence all the links to poster's instance.

Idiots. I mean it's true, this is kind of advertising... But for the Fediverse! And we kind of like the Fediverse here. Especially in the community called "Fediverse"...
I can see how you'd make this mistake though. If your horizon is just Lemmy and you don't know anything about the broader ecosystem we're in, this post might look a bit off.
- it really grinds my gears the shocking number of lemmings who think fediverse == the lemmy regatta. it's like being in arkansas and thinking the united states is the entire world
  
  Heheh, yeah. Especially since that happened in a community which is specifically about the broader Fediverse. You'd think people there know their stuff about... well, the broader Fediverse.
  But I also get the American perspective a lot here. It is how it is. Many people don't factor in that things work differently around the world. They take the US perspective for granted. I guess it's not really obvious unless you've seen other parts of the world and pay attention that this platform also connects you to a bunch of Germans... That means I sometimes won't get what someone is talking about. But on the other hand I get to learn a lot about America...

Why are there so many hashtags on a lemmy post? It's definitely spam, and you asking how to commercialise it makes it commercial spam, so it all checks out.
YDI
- It wasn't a Lemmy post originally. It's a post from mastodon that - thanks to actvitypub - has reached Lemmy.
  So basically exactly what the fediverse was designed to do .
  It's intention was to test interoperability and reach between Mastodon and other fediverse implementations.
  Asking for commercialisation strategies was definitely done tongue in cheek, because the mod suggested it was commercial in a rude manner.
- Pretty sure they were being facetious with that comment.
  
  I can see no evidence to suggest it was anything other than sincere.
  Edit: Legitimately, can someone point out what part of that was supposed to be anything but an honest discussion? I'm seeing downvotes, but no rebuttals.

Was it indeed commercial?
- I don't think so. I mean you can read the post in the screenshot yourself. It doesn't link to anything (except the image) and doesn't promote anything except the Fediverse. The hashtags are a bit excessive for Lemmy standards. And heise is a German computer magazine publishing company. So the author writes articles for a living. But I believe they said in the comments, the post was done in their own time. And I don't think anyone except the moderator took offense... The post got like 300 upvotes.
  
  I was on the go so didn't have time to read in details.
  @woelkchen@lemmy.world , seems like the consensus here is that the commercial aspect was a poorly communicated joke, would you like to revisit this decision?
  
  The post got like 300 upvotes.
  Not by Lemmy users. Likes/favs federate from microblogging platforms like Mastodon to Lemmy as upvotes but Mastodon doesn't care about Lemmy's downvotes. On LW the post had a significantly lower score than on Mastodon, meaning the upvotes are the aggregate of all ActivityPub platforms (of which Mastodon is by far the biggest) while the downvotes are almost exclusively from Lemmy.
  Let me give you an example: A Mastodon user has 10k followers. That user publishes a low quality post that only a tenth of those users like. That post tags a Lemmy community with 100 users. Those 100 Lemmy community members can downvote as much as they like, the 1000 Mastodon followers outmatch them.
  So no, the "score" is not a metric for popularity by Lemmy users.
- Was it indeed commercial?
  heise.de is a commercial platform and that post was made by heise's head writer.

Question from those who would like to see other Fediverse content on Lemmy - anyone know how to?
As in I'd much rather read actual mastodon/bluesky posts than screenshots of mastodon/bluesky posts uploaded to Lemmy.
- Lemmy does not support personal microblogging. If you want to have both in the same interface you need to sign up on a Mbin or Friendica instance.

Not entirely true - coming from a LW account, it did not make it to Beehaw (although this post did, coming from slrpnk.net and going to lemmy.dbzer0.com).

if it's an advertisement then it's one bad advertisement. I have no idea what it's trying to sell me 🤷‍♀️

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