Are We Ready For This Site's Endless Feed of AI-Generated Porn?
Are We Ready For This Site's Endless Feed of AI-Generated Porn?
A very NSFW website called Pornpen.ai is churning out an endless stream of graphic, AI-generated porn. We have mixed feelings.
Could be interesting. I mean for one thing no real person being expolited and those with strange fetishist can be satisfied. But could be very disturbing as well. Wonder how long until AI video porn?
I think it is just a matter of time for the disturbing stuff to circulate. If people can create their darkest desires they will.
Then cue debates and political campaigns about AI in general and if we should allow anyone or anything to create depraved images, pronographic or not.
That’s so good, sissy. You got even better after I amputated your legs.
“We don’t intend to police the use of developing technologies at this time.”
That’s so good, sissy, blind that billionaire with your acidic piss.
“We cannot allow our children to be exposed to such grotesque videos.”
Yeah, although I think part of the missing nuance is that people already did that, the difference being that now anyone can, in theory, create what's inside their head, regardless of their actual artistic talent. Now that creation is accessible though, everyone's having another moral panic over what should be acceptable for people to create.
If anything, moving the more disturbing stuff from the real world to the digital seems like an absolute win. But I suppose there will always be the argument, much like video games making people violent, that digital content will become real.
People have been able to draw for eons. Imagine trying to ban the public from drawing because the odd few people are a little mixed up.
AI is just a tool, like the pencil, charcoal or paints.
I know you aren't suggesting we ban it from the public, just my side of the hypothetical debate that your right in saying will arrive
"eh I'll take a look"
first thing I see is a woman on her back with her legs behind her head, smooth skin where her genitals should be and nipples in the middle of her buttocks.
"alright then"
Once again pornography is setting unrealistic standards for women.
if xkcd was right about jpeggy porn being niche, i'd bank on terrible AI porn becoming a niche in the future too.
Yeh this site has nothing on some of the insane ai creators on pixiv
i prefer the pregnant woman with huge boobs instead of a pregnant stomach (and also less huge boobs where they normally are)
woman with a dinosaur and a woman without legs for me
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SFW content in an NSFW website. Nice!
I'd throw a hotdog down that corridor, if you know what I mean.
lewd
Finally some good technology
I'm not sure if I have the strength to clutch these pearls any harder over these articles. I peaked 8 articles ago.
Have a sandwich and a nap then I'm sure you'll be ready to go again
Weakling.
I've been clutching so hard, the pearls fused into my flesh years ago. I've bankrupted myself buying more pearls, inserted one by one into my clenched fist.
Luckily the mere sight of me - a lurching pearlescent beast with glinting pearls for eyes - causes clams to voluntarily offer their own in reverance, my own unending supply.
You're a poet.
Seems like the author is clutching them hard enough for everyone.
I personally can't wait for AI to cause a thotmarket collapse.
Technically if you're versed enough then you can already do that but takes some effort
People who insist on real flesh porn will ultimately be viewed as weirdo’s out of touch with reality like people who insist everything sounds better on vinyl.
Fast forward 25 years past the first Ai war and a ragged but triumphant humanity must rediscover the lost art of waxing.
Why would I want to encourage the flesh trade where real women are hurt? And are limited to what humans are physically capable of?
When I can have AI generated people who are able to do anything imaginable and no one gets hurt?
They'll be arguments that 'once people get used to the fantasies they'll want to try it in real life' but we all know that that just isn't true fr 40 years of video games. There hasn't been any uptick in the events of people eating mushrooms and jumping on turtles or - what ever the fuck a goomba is -
At what point was porn NOT graphic, but now this thing IS GRAPHIC. Are we talking all caps, or just a small difference between the live stuff and the AI shit? Inquiring minds want to know.
When I first heard Stable Diffusion was going open source, I knew this would happen. The only thing I'm surprised at is that it took almost 2 years.
"Are we ready", in the sense that for now it's 95% garbage and 5% completely generic but passable looking stuff? Eh.
But, as this will increase in quality, the answer would be… who cares. It would suffer from the same major issues of large models : sourcing data, and how we decide the rights of the output. As for it being porn… maybe there's no point in focusing on that specific issue.
Not sure how people will be so into this shit. It's all so generic looking
The actual scary use case for AI porn is that if you can get 50 or more photos of the same person's face (almost anyone with an Instagram account), you can train your own LoRA model to generate believable images of them, which means you can now make "generic looking" porn with pretty much any person you want to see in it. Basically the modern equivalent of gluing cutouts of your crush's face onto the Playboy centerfold, only with automated distribution over the Internet...
AI is still a brand new tech. It's like getting mad at AM radio for being staticy and low quality. It'll improve with time as we get better tech.
Personally I can't wait to see what the future holds for AI porn. I'm imagining being able to get exactly what you want with a single prompt, and it looks just as real as reality. No more opening 50 tabs until you find the perfect video. Sign me the fuck up.
I AM!
Does it say something about society that our automatons are better at creating similated genitals than they are at hands?
On a visual level, we are more interested in genitals than hands? Also, faces.
Went and had a look and it’s some of the funniest stuff I’ve seen all day! A few images come close to realism but a lot of them are the sort AI fever dream stuff that you could not make up.
Ai has no ficks to give to people who are not ready.
Meh. It's all only women and so samey samey. Not sexy IMO, but I don't think fake is necessarily not hot, art can be, certainly.
You can change it to men, but most of the results are intersex(?) or outright women anyway. I guess the training data is heavily weighted toward examples of women.
AI porn for the longest time has just looked so off to me, idk what it is
Some things I was able to put my finger on after looking at a bunch of the images in the feed:
This looks good, untill you try and figure out the fingers https://civitai.com/images/1967206?modelVersionId=138176&prioritizedUserIds=6357&period=AllTime&sort=Most%20Reactions&limit=20
and the toes here... https://civitai.com/images/1967203?modelVersionId=138176&prioritizedUserIds=6357&period=AllTime&sort=Most+Reactions&limit=20
You can do multiple subjects but you have to be more creative than just throwing a prompt into a generator. You have to be willing to do it in multiple steps with in painting.
I am a little surprised that no one had created a site like this for child pornography.
I am not a legal expert, but my layman's understanding of Ashcroft v Free Speech Coalition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroftv.FreeSpeechCoalition is that as long as there is no person being harmed by it CSAM is legal.
Maybe later rulings have changed this. One can hope.
CivitAI is a pretty perverted site at the best of times. But there's a disturbing amount of age adjustment plugins to make images of children on the same site they have plugins to make sex acts. It's clear some people definitely are.
I remember reading that this may be already happening to some extent, eg people sharing tips on creating it on the deep web, maybe through prompt engineer, fine tuning or pretraining.
I don’t know how those models are made, but I do wonder the ones that need retraining/finetuning by using real csam can be classified as breaking the law.
Hentai maybe. But realistic shit is 100% illegal, even just making such an AI would require breaking the law as you'd have to use real CSAM to train it.
There was an article the other day about underage girls in France having AI nudes spread around based on photos as young as 12. Definitely harm there.
Well, to develop such a service, you need training data, i.e. lots of real child pornography in your possession.
Legality for your viewers will also differ massively around the world, so your target audience may not be very big.
And you probably need investors, which likely have less risky projects to invest into.
Well, and then there's also the factor of some humans just not wanting to work on disgusting, legal grey area stuff.
yup, just like the ai needed lots of pictures of astronaughts on horses to make pictures of those...
Unfortunately, no, you just need training data on children in general and training data with legal porn, and these tools can combine it.
It's already being done, which is disgusting but not surprising.
People have worried about this for a long time. I remember a subplot of a sci-fi series that got into this. (I think it was The Lost Fleet, 15 years ago).
You haven't been to 4chan lately because that's exactly what it's being used for
You'd also have to convince them that it's not real. It'll probably end up creating laws tbh. Then there are weird things like Japan where lolis are legal, but uncensored genitals aren't, even drawn.
I'm sure they're out there on the deep web.
Fuck yeah!
While amazing, most of these are hilariously wrong. Let's just say the girl with 4 bellybuttons was the more tame incorrect thing I saw.
PixAI is better than pornpen IMO
No, I'm not ready for this one: KC7ROYwDs2lwWwnSz1Ds
This is like a Trainwreck. I can't look away!
There's a sub in lemmynsfw for it so post away there.
Slip and slide right into CP
That's already happening
Whelp it's all humans being generated, so I'm safe. Realistic enough looking humans ain't my jam.
Eh it's still very obvious.
I predict that small imperfections will get even hotter as time goes by
The blowjob section on the site is fascinating. So many pictures of women with dicks growing out of them.
Yup. First one genuinely startled me
Where is ai link :d
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[spongebob_voice]III'm ready!
I have been waiting this day for decades ever since I first heard about AI generated images a decade or so ago.
That's very wishful thinking, I'm afraid.
Reduced, maybe, but I don't think it will impact things significantly. The types of people who participate in that do not want an alternative because they do it because they want to hurt and abuse a real person. They want to have power over another human being and make them suffer. An endless stream of porn isn't going to fix that sickness.
As long as there will be simps, there will be a need for this trash.
Super hot and spicy take incoming: AI will be able to make very realistic child porn and we might actually see huge drop in sexual child abuse.
I hate to even type that sentence, btw.
It already is being used to make CSAM. I work for a hosting provider and just the other day we closed an account because they were intentionally hosting AI generated CSAM.
Welp that's horrifying
Can I ask why AI generated media is considered CSAM if there are no victims? I don't like furry porn but it's not beastiality. I don't like loli shit but it's not CP (well technically it is but it's not real kids is my point). How is it any different?
Is it gross? Obviously, but I'm biased as I don't like kiddie shit but no one is getting hurt and if it helps reduce sexual abuse cases against kids, why wouldn't you be in favor of it?
I don't understand how this is unreasonable. If AI generated CP increased the stats of kids being harmed then I'd be vehemently opposed. I know it's a touchy subject but you can't just write it off if it works for the greater good, no?
The fact that it can make CP at all is the reason why it needs to be banned outright.
EDIT: Counting 8 9 10 11 butthurt pedophiles afraid their new CP source will be banned
Nah, just hook it up to some predator drones and build a pedo hunting skynet.
No one is butthurt. I have no interest in CP (thank fucking god) but if it means people get their rocks off at home without *hurting any kids then I'm all for it.
What's interesting is you have a strong disdain for fake porn but no real argument against it other than "heeeyuck kiddy porn bad aaahheeeyuuck". 😂
Edit: no real arguments and just downvotes? Seems like a typical facts vs feelings argument ¯(ツ)_/¯
Why's that? There are no children being hurt.
It's actually not totally different to Germany's already existing approach. Germany treat pedophiles in their centres and allow sexual offenders to watch "child porn" but with actors who look underage. I don't know if the approach works but it is something I just heard about.
Funny how just bringing up a solution that, although uncomfortable, reduces the cases of sexual abuse against kids without any victims gets you branded as a pedo.
I just want kids to stop getting abused lol
I think words like “thirsty” and “thirst trap” are self defeating. Actual thirst is your body’s biological response to a need for water. Without water, you’ll die. Calling porn sites “thirst traps” suggests that people have a critical need for porn - which is often contrary to the point the author is trying to make.
Arguing about the ethics or morality of something that’s “necessary” for survival is irrelevant. Anyone who’s against pornography is perfectly within their rights to share their opinion, but they should avoid the word “thirst”.
Edit: I know the issue of pornography can evoke strong feelings in some, but I’m only talking about word choice, folks.
I’m also not one of those tiresome people people who refuses to admit that they’re wrong, and acts like a child when faced with sound opposition. If someone would actually put their opinion into words, instead of just downvoting, I’d appreciate it.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Thirsty
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thirst%20traps
The author isn’t using thirsty, like you’re thirsty for water. They are using the slang version.
I can see how you would misunderstand without knowing that.
Consider another association with thirst: Desperation. In the mind of the author porn consumption is negative so anyone consuming porn is doing this out of desperation, despite knowing better. It essentially describes people being controlled by their base instincts. And thus this site is a trap, luring people against their will.
That is how I would interpret the word thirst in this context anyway. It's not about a critical need, it's about thirst being irrational and highly compulsive.
It's slang. There are tons of words in every language that don't make sense but get used a certain way because that's how people use them. Next thing you're gonna tell me is that in the 1980s when people called things bad you were upset because they actually meant good.
There's also the fact that not all porn is exploitative
Make up your mind. Last week every porn was exploitative because reasons, and not it’s not because people could lose their job.
Little known fact - there's more the one person out there, and, those extra people have lots of differing opinions!