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Russians ‘burning faces’ of dead North Koreans to keep them secret: Zelenskyy

www.rfa.org /english/korea/2024/12/17/north-korean-soldier-video-russia-12172024/

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy claims Russian forces are burning the faces of dead North Korean soldiers to hide their involvement in Ukraine.

He says North Koreans are now being deployed in significant numbers, particularly in Russia’s Kursk region, where 200 have reportedly been killed or wounded.

The U.S. confirmed indications of North Korean casualties, while South Korea imposed sanctions on officials and entities involved in North Korea-Russia military cooperation.

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2mo ago

Russians ‘burning faces’ of dead North Koreans to keep them secret: Zelenskyy

www.rfa.org /english/korea/2024/12/17/north-korean-soldier-video-russia-12172024/

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I'm sure that the CIA backed Radio Free Asia doesn't have a US bias slant
- ... Are you saying there aren't any north Koreans involved in the war?
  Because at this point that is akin to denying the sun is warm.
  
  Don't waste your keystrokes to argue, it's an .ml idiot.
  
  That you're trying to claim that I've said things that I did not. I'm saying that radio free Asia is CIA propaganda that puts a western slant on their propaganda.
  
  Mentioning that in this context does give the distinct impression you want to cast doubt on the fact that NK conscripts are being employed by russia though. Why else would you mention that here?
  
  Does it? I think this person suggests that this media outlet is making shit up. As to why mention it - because making them cartoonishly evil diminishes the weight of what they've really done - among other things.
- Go back to .ml
  
  Does it make you uncomfortable to hear information that you disagree with despite it being true?
  
  That's a very strange question for you to ask based on your rejection of information you disagree with.
  
  It's not a matter of disagreeing with it, the sole purpose of RFA and RFE is propaganda
  
  And yet it could still be true information that you're disagreeing with simply because the source is propaganda. You do understand that propaganda and falsehoods are not the same thing, yes?
  
  Something about a broken clock?
  
  Would that 'broken clock' include the BBC article I gave you a link to? Just out of curiosity. You don't seem to have dismissed it as propaganda.
  
  The BBC article doesn't make the false claim of Russia burning off their faces to keep it a secret.
  
  It literally does.
  
  It's pretty damn foolish of you to deny the contents of an article are in the article twice.
  
  It could be in there a dozen times and it doesn't make it true. They've lied to us continually and have a history of lying over decades to manufacture public consent for war.
  
  If it were true it would exist in the real world, outside of your .ml echo chamber
  
  Lemmy.world ironically talking about echo chambers?
  
  They are talking about .ml unironically, outright saying the truth - that .ml is a pure tankie propaganda instance and 99% of the time someone from there comes out to spout unsupported claims, get into a "PROVE MY EXTRAODINARY CLAIMS AREN'T TRUE" argument, loses it immediately and still tries to excuse a murderous regime literally melting the faces of their soldiers so they couldn't be recognized by anyone.
  
  Victims of US propaganda always view themselves as immune to propaganda. But feel free to continue believing the comforting lies you are told.
  
  Uh huh, meanwhile you are the "enlightened one" immune to any propaganda.
  Dude, I saw firsthand what ruskies do to people and countries. I don't need an edgy teen going "no, u" thinking they have anything worthy of writing out.
  
  I'm betting you are under the assumption that I am defending Russia. Being critical of bullshit lies from US propaganda is not an endorsement of the other side.
  
  Is this information here with us now?
- Cool. Here's the newsweek article on the same thing that has a link to Zelensky's Twitter post where he says the thing. https://www.newsweek.com/zelensky-says-russian-troops-burning-faces-killed-north-korean-soldiers-2001980
  
  Newsweek is also trash, but for different reasons.
  
  Newsweek has been unable to independently verify the video or Zelensky's allegations.
  Awesome.
  Like NK soldiers are there and we know they're there. This explanation doesn't seem to pass the straight face test.
  
  Also trash
  
  I have a feeling that you would say any source with this information is trash by virtue of it having information you don't like.
  
  And you would be wrong, Newsweek is owned by right wing Christian fundamentalists and RFA is CIA propaganda
  
  Go on. Now do the BBC.
  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxz0ygl7gko
  
  Point where it says Russia is burning off their faces to keep it a secret
  
  Seriously?
  On Monday, President Zelensky posted drone footage on Telegram that showed a number of men taking cover behind trees, saying they were North Korean troops who had just taken part in an assault on a Ukrainian position.
  He also posted footage which he said showed Russian troops trying to conceal the presence of North Koreans on the battlefield by using a campfire to burn the faces of those who had been killed.
  All you had to do was read the article and you didn't bother because you're too convinced you're right and all of these sources are lying.
  It's not even a very long article.
  
  I don't even have a horse in this race, but it's kinda crazy how badly people seem to want to believe this one crazy detail of an already unbelievable conflict
  a: they're paraphrasing zelenski there, and,
  b:
  The BBC has not independently verified the claims.
  They're all reporting on the same tweet, it's not surprising that none of them have been able to verify it
  
  That really doesn't change my point. All three articles give the same information.
  
  Yea I don't disagree. It's just an incredible claim and it's surprising that it's apparently not being scrutinized much in the reporting.
  People really want to take this as granted, and that's kinda the point of manufactured consent.
- It does, but that doesn't necessarily mean its reporting is false.
- Come on! Say something about the USSR!
  
  3x3 Bingo? Please. 5x5 or go home.
  ...Man I miss State Department Bingo.
  
  You're not helping promote journalistic integrity.
  All you're doing is saying "it's okay to be biased when it supports my side."
  
  Great comeback. When people are quoting the literal CIA funded outlet Radio Free Asia as a source, which is known for making outrageous claims against any enemy of America without evidence, say "Russia and China bad" and poof everything is proven.
  
  Except there are multiple pictures of it happening, plenty of analysis on youtube and a shitload of other sources. But sure, in delululand, when you don't see anything it doesn't exist.
  
  Trying to conflate the USSR and Russia is infantile
  
  That's why they're listed separately I guess
  
  It's like they can't read lol
- There is also video evidence of this
- You're not wrong but you're not right.
- Yea that OR the orcish orcs are orc(k?)ing..
  Whatever makes the most sense to you I guess...

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