Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War
Half of Ukrainians Want Quick, Negotiated End to War
Ukrainians are growing increasingly weary of the war with Russia. Gallup's latest surveys of Ukraine show 52% would like to see the war end as soon as possible.
I know I sure wouldn't want to go to war for the right of my landed lord and employer to exploit me.
And the rest are not draft eligible I guess..
A story from personal experience: most of my friends from Ukraine wanted the war to end from the very beginning. There was one exception though - a real patriot who considered Zelensky a hero and the best president we've ever had, "Slava Ukraini", "Russians are orcs", you know the type.
What on Earth could make such a patriot change his mind? Just like me he doesn't live in Ukraine, and about a year ago Zelensky started trying hard to forcefully return people from abroad to use as a cannon fodder (thankfully, he failed)... That made him change his opinion very fast :)And every war supporter out there is the same.. The war is OK, as long as it's not me who is forbidden to leave the country and gets kidnapped off a street to be used as a cannon fodder.
Funny how all the bravest Ukrainian patriots live in western countries now.
Don't worry, there are some in Ukraine as well.
My favourite one is currently "Oleksander Leonenko". He seems like a very patriotic guy from Odessa, self-identifies as a "language inspector", his T-shirt print roughly translates to the following: "talk to me in UKRAINIAN, I live in Ukraine and I DON'T UNDERSTAND Russian", etc.He is bravely defending Ukraine against the invasion of orcs right now!
Ah, wait no, sorry my bad, actually he was detained by conscription officers on 13th (his boyfriend used some extremely weird words when describing the situation - "police illegally kidnapped a person"... Sounds like Russian propaganda if you ask me, this literally never happens in Ukraine, why do Ukrainian sources even share this obvious misinformation...), and on 19th he started asking for donations attempting to raise 500k uah = 12k usd in order to "save his life". Not sure what are those money for, but definitely not for a bribe.
There's no such thing as peace talks in this war. Russia wants it all, any Ukrainian who live in Ukraine will be forced into assimilation and I doubt they all want that. Your friends are maybe spineless cowards I don't know
There's no such thing as peace talks in this war. Russia wants it all, any Ukrainian who live in Ukraine will be forced into assimilation and I doubt they all want that.
Why? What on Earth could be a reason for doubting people would prefer to live rather than die?? It's literally written right here, in the article, from a western media outlet, that people don't want to fight and avoid it AT ALL COST, people would rather die trying to escape the country to the freedom than die for Zelensky's regime, and there are people on the frontlines just because Zelensky's murderous regime is forcing people to... And you are still "doubting"...
Your friends are maybe spineless cowards I don't know
Yeah yeah yeah, I've heard that before... If you don't want to fight for MY interests than YOU are a coward. Doesn't work on anyone with at least half a brain, sorry :)
most of my friends from Ukraine wanted the war to end from the very beginning.
Nobody in Ukraine wanted this war to happen at all, but Russia went ahead and invaded them anyway, so they didn't have any real choice in the matter.
so they didn't have any real choice in the matter.
Choice? Let's talk about choice.
We don't have any choice not because of Putin's actions, but because of Zelensky's.
It's his regime that forbids people to leave the country.
It's his regime that kidnaps people off the streets and send them to the meatgrinder every day.
I bet they do, but the only thing Russia is willing to accept is complete surrender.
That’s not really a negotiation, is it?
Russia was willing to negotiate two months into the war, when all they were asking for was for Ukraine to be neutral and to implement Minsk. Then the west sabotaged those negotiations, and now Russia won the war, so yeah they're going to dictate terms.