A step too far
A step too far
A step too far
Man, people miss out on so much good eating because of preconceptions and gatekeeping.
Berries go with almost anything. And yeah, technically strawberries aren't berries. But the point is that pretty much every berry is a blend of acidic tartness, sweetness, and complex flavors. There's no world in which berries make something bad.
Any fruit has the potential to go with any standard food. Meats, pastas, breads, even veggies. It's a matter of balancing the specific fruit with the other ingredients.
That's why pineapple on pizza works. Tangy, sweet, and with that hard to describe tropical fruitiness. It brings out the sweetness of a good tomato sauce while cutting through the fattiness of toppings and any oils.
Pork chops and applesauce baby, it's a classic for reason. Pork stuffed with apples; and other things, orange chicken or duck, blackberry glazed venison roast (seriously, you want to try it), apricot beef (or lamb), curried goat with prunes (or apricot, or peaches even), roasted brussels sprouts with apples and cranberries.
It's all about the balancing with other things.
The Polish strawberry pasta? It's balanced out with sour cream that mutes the sweetness some, and works as a bridge with the pasta.
I know I'm talking into a void here, what with this being a meme, but I'm always so amazed that people will dismiss a food combination without trying it, or sometimes without even trying to imagine the possibilities.
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Nice catch, thanks :)
I blame Alton Brown.
Hear me out.
Alton Brown is undoubtedly a legendary figure and he did a lot of good for the modern state of culinary entertainment. His scientific, experimental approach was authoritative. He came up with what was scientifically the best way to do a thing, demonstrated why, and did it in a very entertaining way.
But with that, came scores of fans who saw "this is the best way to do a thing" and interpreted that as "this is the only way to do a thing, fuck you you're doing it wrong."
Alton wasn't doing what other TV chefs were doing. Emeril and Julia presented really good recipes, they'd add some flare and say hey, this is how we do it around here. Bourdain explored the world and showed off a lot of great ways to cook. He was reluctant to criticize and clearly just loved the food.
But Alton Brown, for all the good he did, opened up authority to fans who didn't know shit about fuck. He spoke with confidence about how his method was the right method.
Right about the time the Internet was coming in to it's own and arguing about nonsense online became a hobby a person could have.
Now, there's a culture of being right about cooking online. People who log in every day just to bitch about how somebody else cooked something.
Obviously it's not exclusively Alton's fault, and Alton is as open to new and interesting ways to cook things as Bourdain was, a fact you'll discover if he ever happens to visit your home town and read what he says about the food there on his Facebook page.
But there is a through line there, and it starts at Good Eats.
You know, I agree, especially about Alton not being the cause as much as it is the viewers looking for am excuse to feel holier-than-thou about something.
You're dead right that people took his work way too far and assumed that because he was breaking things down into the underlying food science and methodology that the exact preparations he used were default the best, period.
He wasn't prone to that himself, though he did go hard against myths.
He's a terrific food educator. One of the best in television history imo. But you're also dead right about the entertainment side screwing things up. His on screen persona, combined with the structure of good eats as a show made it too easy for food snobs to glom onto the wrong parts
I still can't get over the militant grilled cheese vs melt arguments that were common online a year ago.
If food tastes good, who cares what the hell it's called or how "authentic" it is. No food is authentic from the get-go; someone tries something new one day, other people like it, and it catches on and becomes a thing. If it's not your thing, or if you think it could be done better with x, y, and z, that's fine, everyone has personal tastes and you don't have to like everything.
9/11 also did a number on food shows
I don't know if I agree with that. I think Alton was vastly more New Guard, Question Tradition than many of the other notable celebrity chefs and cooks during his come up. If you want to talk about people enforcing tradition, let's take a look at Giada DeLaurentis, or hell even Rachel Ray whenever it comes to anything with Sicilian origin.
I think the Old Guard mentality is vastly more rigid about these sort of traditions and giving people a critical understanding of the processes behind cooking doesn't, at least to me, imply any kind of singular authoritarian approach to cuisine.
edit: typos and cleaning up for clarity
Ok now I'm hungry and I want to try Polish strawberry pasta.
I haven't had access to good, fresh strawberries since I heard about it, but even grocery store ones were yummy. Maybe not the best thing ever, I would prefer a strawberry shortcake pretty much every time. But it's essentially the same flavors (excepting the sour cream); the textures are what makes it a new experience.
It worked really well, maybe fifteen, twenty minutes of work total. I kept things kinda medium chunky. Used a potato masher for maybe ten mashes. Tried it both warm and chilled. The taste was more strawberry forward warm, but it was overall better chilled since the sauce hits the tongue different. It kinda rolls across, deploying the strawberry in layers with the sour cream more. Made for better mouth feel and general taste, at the expense of that vibrant strawberry kick.
I get people wanting to defend the "traditional" preparation of a food, because otherwise you get into weird philosophical "burrito of Theseus" issues, but... You can just slap "non-traditional" on it and then carry on and enjoy the food. If you feel really strongly or it's really out there, call it a fucked up ____ inspired whatever.
One of the best pizzas I ever had was at a pizza place near me that has a "trust us" pizza, where you don't know what it is, but it's new and definitely worth the cost (they're not giving you a plain cheese pizza). It was like a strawberry and anduille pizza with a seasoned sweet white sauce. It was weirdly good.
Hawaiian pizza was invented by a Greek man running an Italian pizzeria in Toronto inspired by the sweet and sour flavors of Chinese cuisine
The entire country of Brazil:
Nothing is sacred in Brazilian culinary.
Pineapple is probably one of the tamest pizza toppings in my region, which ironically has one of the largest Italian populations.
I live pineapple on pizza.
There is one issue with how pineapple is frequently used on pizza, and that is heat retention. When pizza has large chunks of pineapple they tend to stay hotter a lit longer than the rest of the slice, so even after the sauce has cooled to less than magma temps, the large pibeapple chunks are atill able to melt rocks.
The solution is smaller pineapple chunks of course, and that is even better with ham since it ends up more evenly distributed on the slice in addition to improved temperature consistency.
Sweden:
I would say everywhere in Brazil except São Paulo, lots of traditional Italian pizza restaurants here. I was actually shocked when I went to Rio and people were adding ketchup to pizza
I was actually shocked when I went to Rio and people were adding ketchup to pizza
That is shocking, BBQ sauce or sweet chilli sauce works much, much better.
As a wise man recently said:
🎵 (Don't) Give a fuck about tradition, stop impressin' the dead 🎵
Tradition is just peer pressure from the dead
Pineapple on Pizza isn't bad and you're being whiners
sɹǝuᴉɥʍ ƃuᴉǝq ǝɹ,noʎ puɐ pɐq ʇ,usᴉ ɐzzᴉԀ uo ǝlddɐǝuᴉԀ
Correct
Japan putting ketchup on spaghetti: "Hold my sake."
What other condiment can you put on there? Mayonaisse?
I mean, I've seen plenty of Brazilians doing that for years, too.
Fruit goes on cooked flour.
It's been like that for centuries.
Cake. Danish. Fruitcake. Pizza. Filled doughnuts. Kolacky. Raisin bread. Banana bread...
Alright guys. How do you all feel about a dessert lasagna?
I would like to know more!
Since I generally prefer another serving of the main course over dessert, sure, I can just eat more lasagna for dessert.
It's been a long time since I've been, but I distinctly remember Olive Garden having a chocolate lasagna. It was decent, but nothing to rave about.
Need to polish them tastes
Swedes with banana, curry powder, and peanuts on pizza. Along with chicken and pineapple, all together.
Remove the chicken and I'm in, that sounds delicious.
A famous italian chef branded the strawberry and champagne risotto, so maybe not
I love strawberries, that sounds awful, and next strawberry season I would love to try it. Could I have a recipe?
There are tons of recipes for fruit pierogi if you google em, they usually include the recipe for the pasta as well. They're little dumplings, basically ravioli. My fiance is polish and I make them for him on occasion with twarog and blueberries, (a simple milk cheese that's really easy to make -you can skip the cheese and serve them with cream which is great too) boil them, then fry them in butter and sprinkle them with powdered sugar.
My polish grandmother used to make us pasta with applesauce. Surprisingly tasty.
I'm terms of pizza, here in Sweden we have the kebab pizza and the banana-curry pizza. The latter one was slightly disappointing in how ok it was.
Döner Pizza is one of Germany's most popular Pizzas. Next to Spaghetti Bolognese Pizza.
I find kebab pizza to taste more like kebab than pizza, but in a bad way, like it overpowers the rest of the pizza.
put literally anything on a pizza and watch me continue to live my life unencumbered. Italians are too wrapped up in a national identity of tut-tutting other countries that change their precious recipes.
I really can't stand traditionalists. You don't want pineapple on pizza? Don't have it. And don't worry about what other people like to eat.
I was born in Central America and growing up eating pupusas (which are amazing) we used to have bean, cheese and pork. Any time I would ask "why can't pupusas have chicken or fish?" The answer would be "cause that's not traditional". Now the new generation makes them with fish, shrimp, chicken, veggies, etc. And it's so yummy. Keep your traditions and classic recipes, but don't try to stifle my culinary creativity cause of your stupid hangups
Dude, pupusas are soooooo good.
I’m Canadian and didn’t get to try them until I was in my 20s thanks to my friend.
How have I never thought of a cornmeal meat pie?
My wife is going to hate me because I'm about to blow up our kitchen again.
I'm a man of strange tastes so I say y'all should carry on with whatever nonsense that pops into your head. How do you think we got to this point as far as the culinary arts go?
Italians need to realize that they don't own the concept of putting toppings on a round piece of bread. And tomatoes aren't even native to Italy so that throws a wrench into their ability to complain.
brazilians making stragonoff pizza:
As an average enjoyer of that particular flavor, fuck anyone who thinks it sounds terrible.
Once, out of salt, I put sugar in my fries. It wasn't bad.
American ketchup is basically corn syrup with red dye, you’re just cutting out the middleman.
About 6 months ago, I refilled the office salt pot with sugar for a laugh.
Nobody seems to have noticed yet.
Ever had spaghetti ice cream with strawberry sauce and grazed white chocolate as "parmesan"
Ooh, that actually doesn't sound bad... Slightly tart sweet with the salty tang of the sauce, maybe with a kick of spice from jalapenos... I'll have to give that a try sometime
ETA: I missed that it said "pasta" rather than "pizza", but my comment stands
Lets not forget pizzas with bananas
Is this for real? How has this not been brought up already as a crime against humanity?
Chuja się znasz na makaronie, frajerze! /s
Pretty sure I heard about strweberries on pizza as well.
I've seen it on a chocolate pizza thing or are you talking a normal pizza?
I think it was a sweet pizza (not sure why it's not just called cake at that point), but only heard about people mentioning it so not sure
As a polock... e x c u s e m e w h a t t h e f u c k
germans when belgians put coriander in wheat beer
I can put the anything on pizza but I draw the line when it comes to beer. I am with Germans on this one.
Spice my beer the fuck up. Extra points if it's a pumpkin beer.
I have drank strawberry beer, banana beer and coke beer in my erasmus in Germany, I don't think they would even wince with your suggestion.
It's like Spaniards and wine, we tend to mix it with anything really.
I don't necessarily think anything>+pasta would be bad tasting; but the textures... 😖
You're spot on. I still remember it from the time I was forced to eat it as a kid. Terrible.
pasta with strawberries is yummy :3
Can you link a recipe? Could only find a kind of dessert...
get strawberries
get cream (or cottage cheese)
get sugar
get pasta
toss them in a bowl & mix
done! :)
I wonder if some place puts lingonberries on their pizza...
I've been wondering recently if you could replace the pineapple with banana slices.
I think Sweden already picked that as their insult towards Italy
Banana and curry powder is a staple pizza in Sweden.
Only one way to find out. Maybe throw some Nutella in there if we want to get real crazy with it.
Not sure if this is widely known, seeing the local reactions i get i have to assume it isn't: nutella and peanut butter.
I will try to throw some banana on the next pizza i get, since it's apparently a thing in Sweden.
Wouldn't even be hazardous, nothing stopping you, maybe you're behind the next big thing.
Pineapple, banana, chicken and yellow curry powder, served with a side of terragon mayonnaise(usually called bearneise, but very far from it) is a very common pizza in Sweden, and it's really good :)
Brazil already does that, banana pizza with or without chocolate
Sugar, cinnamon, and butter on spaghetti is amazing (sans meat, herbs, and spaghetti sauce, in case it needed to be said). It doesn't taste like spaghetti; it tastes like dessert.
Marshmallows and gravy.