My communist Sweden is doing very well

Only one war with norway really
very traditional, you should also go to war with Denmark
- Denmark has stayed fucked up this playthrough.
  I don't want to inherit their fucked-up-ness.
  They have had like 6 failed fascist revolutions and then they keep electing landlords to run the place.
  It's very strange

What game is this?
- Victoria 3
  
  Ah neat, I had heard of it but never actually seen what it looked like. I assume its a civ game like crusader kings or hearts of iron yeah? Is it particularly good in comparison to these two?

How were you able to get enough resources to industrialize without colonizing? I can't imagine Sweden has that many natural resources (and presumably zero oil and rubber in particular).
- I have zero colonies. I import oil from germany as it has a lot of it. And rubber I am pretty much always on short supply of but there is a communist country in Africa I get some from.
  I don't really know why I am doing so well this time around. I am usually terrible at the game. lol
  
  It's possible they've finally gotten the AI to extract resources. That was always the old issue; you couldn't import oil or rubber because nobody had any.

I wonder what that jump was hehe
- That would probably be the destruction of the petite bourgeois as a class.
  They went from like 20% clout to 8% and I was able to pass a lot of laws like workers protections and things of that nature

Nuke norway

Do you have the new Spheres of Influence dlc? Thinking of reinstalling to try it out
- Ye. I bought the season pass when the game came out.
  I don't know how well that investment strategy will work out.
  You should probably just pirate the dlc. It's stupidly overpriced but it is a good dlc
  
  Ah, I have the season pass too I just uninstalled cos I needed space on my hard drive for other stuff haha

You've got any tips? I always end up cheating and it kinda ruins the fun in the long run
- I considered cheating many times this play through. It's a game that is a lot of rng. And the countries make downright a-historical decisions.
  But if you stick with it... it stays the same. There needs to be a lot more added that was in viccy 2.
  Very excited for the next update tho. Hope it fixes some problems I have with the game

I tried so hard to get into Vicy 3. I love the idea of it but it just never really clicked for me
- It's not too hard, you look at what is in demand in the market and begin building buildings that supply those things, then you die of old age waiting for them to complete.
  
  I got the dying of old age from waiting part down! I might give it another go after my X4 kick fizzles out.
  I tried a few times and I think I got to trigger happy on shifting the government to socialism and each time started a civil war. The one was called for imo since I was attempting to dismantle the monarchy or whatever in like year 2 of that session.

so if my experience is mostly just fucking around in CK2 and a lot of Stellaris how easy would this game be for me to pick up and play? Thinking about getting it and would like to know if I drop it like a stone like HOI4 after only a few hours.
- Based on my launch experience (some of the patches and dlc change up the game a ton):
  It’s not that hard to pick up once you figure out the UI. But also most of the game is fucking around with different inputs until you get the results you want e.g. building up enough infrastructure so you can set up paper mills so you can set up universities so you can expand the intelligentsia so you can start passing liberal laws, etc. In the late game everything becomes kinda automated and you end up just kinda sitting back and enjoying your little communist utopia.
  The biggest points of friction were all the “gamey” elements they put on top of the simulation, which end up with weird results like France balkanizing into a million different states after the Paris Commune or World War 1 starting because Brazil declares war on Argentina. But I dunno how fun a pure simulation would be so idk
- I bounced off of other paradox games pretty quickly but this one grabbed me immediately. Like others have said, it’s a materialism simulator where your internal politics actually matter and are directly affected by how you play. It’s also a lot of microing supply and demand of various resources with local and global economies interacting. It’s less plotting to assassinate a rival leader and more plotting to tank their economy by becoming the biggest exporter of steel. There are a lot of systems going on but for me it felt really intuitive just from a basic understanding of material drivers of politics and economics
- I'd highly recommend pirating it to demo it.
  
  that was the plan yeah, i just wanted to ask before i waste my hd space and ruin my ratio

Hexbear Vic 3 game when?
- I was just thinking that.
- It'd be pretty cool to plan a day and host one.
  It would probably need to be split up into a few days tho. Those games last a long time

you're making want to boot up another Sweden run. i keep smashing my head into the table with United States ones. i like starting minimal but still with a good foundation but with as little military conflict as possible. i was just afraid i would be fucked on resources like coal without doing imperialism which i know is often necessary in game but is still repulsive to me
- I don't feel like I had to engage in much imperialism other than my annexation of norway.
  In all honesty sweden is fairly self sustaining. Plentiful natural resources as well as a fairly literate population starting out which really hastens the construction of industry and for labor movements to form

Actually have been interested to play a reformist council republic like this. Maybe as the People’s Republic of Korea.