It’s important to take breaks and observe local flora occasionally.
Description: A picture titled “Russian plants” in a 3 x 3 grid with one of the grid items being Jill Stein, the rest are flora.
Can't speak for many of the rest, but jade plants are from southern Africa. I demand geophylogenetically accurate memes.
Jade plants were very popular as house plant in the soviet union, everyone had one at home. This could be a reason why AI got confused there
Everybody knows that the best political arguments are generated by "AI", \s
US Greens are damned traitors to democracy itself.
You can tell they aren’t serious by the lack of local political effort they put in.
(This post was accidentally edited in an attempt to reply to someone else, this is an in-exact re-creation of what the comment said)
It sucks that common mugwort is still illegal here in Indiana. Thankfully, there's a dispensary about 30 minutes away in Illinois.
Oh man! Making the russian flag out of her and using her hair as the white is golden!
Actually it's white
Yes, which is gold.
As a plant watcher, or whatever this is called, I can assure you that this chart will not help you recognised local flora.
I sat on a stinging nettle a few years ago when I had a mostly outdoor job. Now I am an expert in identifying them.
Imagine the indigenous person hungry enough to figure that out.
I hate stinging nettles so much.. They're always the first to pop up in spring and ruin an otherwise nice walk in the forest.
"And maybe they should do it RIGHT NOW, and maybe I'll vote then but it'll still be for not Dems, and maybe they should also stop genocide, and maybe maybe maybe. .."
Did I capture your full wishlist there? Anything else you'd like now without regard for how long it takes?
Let's be real here, Harris could bend over backwards and support every single one of their positions and they still would find an excuse not to vote for her. It's not about actually achieving anything. If they actually cared about Palestinians then they'd work with the one viable candidate who could work towards a ceasefire (and Harris has openly said she wants a ceasefire and two-state solution, don't give me that "both sides" bullshit. You know Trump is worse) instead of throwing away their vote and pushing nothingburger parties that can't achieve anything in the current system and siphon votes away from the only viable party who could achieve a ceasefire.
If they really cared about moving the country forward, they'd be working from within to push the Dems leftwards so that they might get what they want. Change doesn't happen in a day, and it certainly won't happen through third parties. In a FPTP system, change must happen from within.
Did I capture your full wishlist there?
No. Not even close.
But yes having a liberated and democratic society that doesn't support genocide is pretty high on the list.
lip service to the idea
Where do they do even that?
It's very weird having scrolled in my feed toward the world stuff. It almost seems artificial, like the redditors all collected here with all the hivemind weirdness and astroturfing.
and yeah, Democrats would rather send their dark-money and 'venture-capitalist'-funded PAC lawyers to purge 3rd parties from ballots (really democratic, Democrat party; I'm writing in PSL regardless if they can't get back on and telling everyone I know to) than make themselves appealing at all to the people abandoning their moribund and redundant party 'like rats from a sinking ship'.
They would rather fight with the Republicans over the (shrinking) voter base of rich and upper 'middle class' petty bourgeois rightwingers, and alienate all of their leftwing base, and continue abandoning the 35-50% that straight up don't vote for either of these duopoly-of-exploiters in this fascist-and-vampire show, than reorient toward positions of "not genocide" or "not nuclear-brinksmanship forever-war proxy-wars" or "not-constantly bipartisanly increasing and expanding the US military and neo-colonial racketeer system which is incidentally one of the leading contributors to climate change."
or "not continuing filling the world with CIA torture camps" or "not being just as or in some ways more right wing than trump on immigration somehow
It's telling that they refuse to do any of these things a large portion of the population wants; to the point where Muslim groups are advocating voting for 3rd parties who aren't for drinking the blood of Palestinians (apparently a tall order for US politicians), and instead would rather put so much effort into demonizing and crushing 3rd parties who do advocate against these things.
I don't even know if they're capable of not flying to the right and pandering to right wingers more and more due to their donor base. Their structure is inherently based on funding and campaigning and working for the worst billionaire imperialists and arms-dealer death-merchants in the world and AIPAC and tech monopolies etc. If we all pushed up the PSL to hold their working class margins hostage that they (unlike republicans) actually rely on and take for granted, they might break in half trying to reorient. Maybe they'd float a reformist party to prevent everyone going socialist against the open-fanged republicans who nobody ever had any illusions about and half the dems who are basically republicans will join them, and the other half will flee to the new reformist party (probably alienating their "left wing" into more radical politics because that party would become democrat-ified)
People just want to be lied to about the Democrats that they're different and 'acting resistance' at all to the republicans, when they're really not that different --- and where they (barely) are different, they just capitulate and help the Republicans do whatever they were going to do, in the name of "bipartisanship" and "reaching across the aisle". Like when Obama had both houses of congress and refused to enshrine women's bodily autonomy and LGBTQ civil rights into law. And then gave away a free Supreme Court seat in capitulation. Then Biden denounces the idea of pushing to expand and pack the court because it'll "politicize the court" as if that ship isn't gone past the horizon forever, while doing nothing as women's and LGBTQ rights are torn down throughout the country, even with a Democrat president. It's almost like they don't actually care, or even like when women's rights and LGBTQ rights are under attack because they can drum up fear about the republicans and look 'better' by comparison after creating the problem in the first place, and keep the vampire-and-fascist (dog-and-pony) show going, and get all the gullible liberal votes that "they'll vote for us anyway --- we're not the republicans" Which circles back to why they're so scared of and pushing demonization and repression of 3rd parties I guess. That's a pretty sweet cruise-control-deal they have hoodwinking the populace in a sort of face/heel drama for their 'audience'
If only you could put that same effort into looking at the GOP. This post is disingenuous as fuck.
People just want to be lied to about the Democrats that they’re different and ‘acting resistance’ at all to the republicans, when they’re really not that different
There is a fundamental difference between Liberal Democrats and Conservative Republicans with regard to domestic policy and social issues. That's why you've got folks like Obama and Hilary and Biden bending on gay marriage, throwing kickbacks to the domestic EV market, playing ref between Big Business and Unions, and occasionally kicking some money back for student debt relief. This, while Republicans seem to prefer anti-Trans witch hunts, bailouts to failing coal companies, a court packed full of Pinkertons, and full privatization of the education sector.
I'm sympathetic to folks who see the choice between Trump and Harris as a question of whether we're going to do full scale Final Solution shit to the LGBTQ community, because looking at Florida and Texas you can see legitimacy to that fear.
But when it comes to foreign policy? The MIC has both parties by the balls. This "Trump will be worse on Gaza" is pure cope. This is a campaign of extermination that Biden has actively facilitated. There's nothing left for Trump to do. Similarly, with Ukraine, the fear is that Trump's going to step in and deprive Zelensky of our latest arms shipment. He won't. Trump loves his arms deals almost as much as he loves his trade deals.
It’s almost like they don’t actually care, or even like when women’s rights and LGBTQ rights are under attack because they can drum up fear about the republicans and look ‘better’ by comparison after creating the problem in the first place
Domestically, liberals are perfectly happy to push Women's Rights and LGBTQ Rights amendments at the state level. The biggest hurdle for Dem state reforms have been shitty governors like Hochul and Newsome. When you have a Beshear at the helm, he's happy to rubber stamp progressive reforms even from a state as red as Kentucky.
Nationally, Biden fucking sucks. Harris sucks. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you. But Dems do have people on their roster that don't suck. Dem populism does still exist, particularly in the smaller states.
But the Dems are trending towards a very scary nationalist reflection of the GOP. The Eric Adams style candidate is a fucking sociopath and they're as common to the party as any milquetoast Beto or SucDem AOC. The quality progressives - your Jamal Bowmans and Cori Bushs - are being drummed out of the party by big money. The Silicon Valley hucksters - your Gilibrands and Newsoms - are continuing to climb the ladder.
Its fucking crazy when you've got Dems clapping like seals over the Dick Cheney endorsement. Grim tidings for the future of the party.
It almost seems artificial, like the redditors all collected here with all the hivemind weirdness and astroturfing.
Because, of course, that's exactly what did happen. Lemmy isn't quite as bad as reddit (yet), but they're working hard to make it that way.
We must rally behind score voting, and not ranked choice (at least that is, if we want actual reform to stick)
I must be too American to understand this one ^^;
Stien is the nominee for one of the worthless 3rd parties we have here. The only people who vote for her are narcissists who call trump Hitler but are okay with letting him win by throwing away their votes so they can pretend to be extra liberal. In some ways they are just as bad as trump supporters.
Divide-and-conquer just enough to let bush win, then trump.
It's because of these bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL mY pUriTeH assholes that we got the Iraq invasion, the Kyoto Protocol global warming agreement being ignored and discarded, the indifferent federal response to the Katrina disaster in New Orleans, children in cages separated from their immigrant parents, the sluggish response to Covid, etc.
The world an objectively worse place via republican excrement policies, none of which would have happened if these narcissistic assholes weren't enamored of the stench of their own mUh PuRiTeH! flatulences to see a clear and present danger in front of our noses.
In a way they're worse. At least MAGAs are open about being shitty people and don't pretend otherwise. Stein supporters will act smug and superior ("I didn't vote for Trump directly, so my hands are totally clean!") while they let Trump fuck everyone (Gaza included) over. They're so focused on what's happening across the ocean that they don't care about the dumpster fire happening at home unless they can use it as ammunition to push "BoTh SiDeS" bullshit.
Same. I was just like, "ooh, I love jade plants!"
Wish tumbleweed was on there, considering how it was used to undermine American farms.
Balsam & jade Russian plants? Where is Russia located in your opinion
I have no issues with bottom middle
Looks ai generated, so not too surprised it's wrong
What's with the focus on Jill Stein? Third parties aren't relevant and the number of people who vote for them is far overshadowed by the number of people who don't vote at all. There are better uses of time than this lame two minutes hate session.
Russian shills + USA republicans began pushing propaganda for her in a big way after they couldn't find a decent angle to effectively attack Harris like they did with Biden. Leave that propaganda unchecked and she will divert more than a few votes because propaganda works, so fortunately there is a lot of pushback in the other way.
Because this is the time of year that Stein starts pushing herself as a candidate after doing nothing for 4 years, and this is an incredibly close presidential race where voting third party is dangerous. Stein herself is also extremely questionable as a candidate so of course people are going to talk about it. There is a vocal minority of Lemmings who are pushing Stein and other third parties very hard, so I can completely understand why others are pushing back with threads like this one.
Since Democrats are so corrupt they refuse to abolish the antidemocratic electoral college and have already lost two elections they had the majority of votes in.
Harris, while popular, is in a dead heat in several swing states with Trump and it's very likely she'll lose. Liberals think that having third party candidates takes away votes from Harris even through all evidence points to the contrary.
Since Democrats are so corrupt they refuse to abolish the antidemocratic electoral college
The Democrats would love to do away with the EC because it would swing the power wildly in their favor. The problem is that they can't unilaterally do it because it would require a constitutional amendment that would require Republican controlled states to vote against their own power.
It's dead in the water which is why it's never heavily pursued...and you're blaming this on democrat corruption? What a wildly delusional take.
What’s with the focus on Jill Stein?
She's a release valve for the Arab-American protest vote. Arab-Americans are concentrated in the Midwest. Kamala desperately needs the Midwest wall to hold in order to win the White House.
"Jill Stein is a Russian Plant" is going to become "Arab Americans stabbed America in the back" in a few months, particularly if Harris loses. We're just seeing the prelude to the anti-Muslim hysteria boiling up in the Democratic Party.
What’s with the focus on Jill Stein?
She makes Harris look bad.
DNC messaging push (https://front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/MoveOnThirdWay3rdPartiesMemoJune24.pdf).
I'm hoping for their sake OP is getting paid for this.
This is missing some plants in the gene family "conservative / republican"
Now do zionist plants. I hope you have a whole book.
It's the one issue democrats and Republicans agree on saddly
I find it hilarious how democrats would rather go on a pathetic smear campaign against Jill Stein instead of actually making real concessions and bringing people back to vote for Kamala. I, as a European, hope your democracy works exactly as designed. Maybe you'll wake up that way.
who besides dems should go after her? trump wins if she wins. https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-explained-1842620
I think the dems should rather focus on actually making good policy that mobilizes people to go out and vote rather than try to kick political opponents off the ballot (which is fairly undemocratic)
This “Jill Stein is trying to spoil the election” makes no sense.
Jill Stein did not found the Green Party. If Jill Stein didn’t exist, the Greens would just choose another candidate. The outcome would be the same.
She is not an independent like Bobby Kennedy. Are you suggesting the entire Green Party is made up of Russian plants?
This post is sponsored by Lockheed, Raytheon, and AIPAC
Libs seething that Greens won't compromise on genocide.
They're terrified, because the election is close and a reliable liberal voting block - Arab Americans - is increasingly disenchanted with a liberal leadership that's pandering to fascists.
If too many Deerborn, Michigan residents defect from the Harris ticket, liberals are going to be foisted with another four years of Trump. And then the Arab-Americans will be to blame, of course. Not the AIPAC lobbyists or the MIC merchants of death or the O&G land-thieves or the domestic white nationalists. Its those stupid Arabs and their pro-Russian Jill Stein agenda.
I still remember back in January? February? Libs were telling me that Gaza wouldn't be a factor in this election, because nobody really cared.
This isn't still true? What percentage of people genuinely plan to vote Green this election? Lemmy is the only place I've seen Jill Stein mentioned, at all.
That's a really elaborate way to say "I support genocide".
I support genocide fuck the Seventh Day Adventist, strip them of their religion and scatter em to the winds!
Thats how ya support genocide ya fucken dipshit, recognizing one cant really do anything is not. The problem with Israel is that to cut em off would require an act of Congress not just the president. And lets be honest that aint fucken happenen'.
Man those shareblue checks must be ridiculous this year.
RFK is still paying. If you do it right you can get Koch, Soros, and RFK!
You guys do realize that the whole world laughs at your inability to conceive proper left politics, right?
A) Jill Stein ≠ left politics B) “proper left politics” involves doing more than just running as a presidential candidate every 4 years funded by the political party in farthest opposition to your political agenda.
Alleged political agenda, just to make it crystal clear.
Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
That's because we have a Russian plant at the helm of the only, let's be honest, sort-of-not-really viable third party in this country. We need an overhaul of our voting system to get out of this mess, like with RCV
Ohhh he's proper left politics Jill stein poasting! He's gonna dissennnnnnnttttttt
That's ok we got all the money. Your country does what we tell it to, I'm betting.