Amazon Contractors can't even sing in their cars now. Unions protect against this micromanagement.

lol “our detection system can’t tell the difference between you talking on the phone and you singing so we need you to keep the data clean by not singing”

Fuuuuck you.

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Hey US, how's it going?

Jesus fucking christ...

When we eating the rich? I'm pretty hungry.

I love how the solution is to cram people into smaller and smaller boxes instead of just I dunno not monitoring your fucking drivers like they're fucking inmates in a maximum security prison you fascist-lite fucks

Edit: Good on 'em for quitting. Every single member of the population should refuse to work for these pricks until they get the goddamn message that we're adult fucking humans and we expect to be fucking well treated like it. The fact that some of us have the choice between kowtowing to this or starving is a stain on our society.

Double edit: "I hope you have to drive for Amazon in your retirement" might be a contender for the most horrible thing you could wish on someone in 2024.

I love driving. I've had delivery jobs and I really enjoyed them. There is absolutely no fucking way I'm working for anyone that has a fucking camera pointed at me. That is some fucking bullshit. I can't believe anyone works for that shit hole company and puts up with that garbage. No camera, no microphone. I'll do my job. If you don't trust me to do my job, then it's best for the both of us I'm not there.

I understand needing a job. I've been there. Don't put up with that bullshit, unionize, or find something else. There's jobs out there much better.

On a side note, If you drove holding the steering wheel with your middle fingers out, what kind of punishment would that be?

It's 1964, you read this in a short story. You think its funny impossible distopia.

They've got a lot more resolve than I do. I'd have walked out long before this point, but had I been told that before going out on my run, I would have literally walked out there and then.

I've walked out of jobs for less.

Oh no, the camera lens broke! Oh well 🤷‍♂️

Seriously though, as a software engineer, this is some grade A USDA choice bullshit. The solution isn’t “don’t move your mouth”. The solution is fix the fucking ML training set.

If you want a robot then hire a robot!

We're trying. We aren't quite there yet. Just keep suffering for a feeew more years, then you won't have to worry about our micromanaging.

This is absolutely terrible and definitely feels like an invasion of, idk, being a human?! But with that said, even though people find out stuff like this happens to drivers and workers, they still enable it by ordering from Amazon because of convenience.

Until we can pull away on our reliance on these services, the companies are just gonna keep crossing more and more lines because they know they’re getting away with it with their customers.

You’re driving with a camera fine tuned on your face for the entire trip, set to trigger to your bosses when your face moves.

Not creepy at all.

It might open an unwanted can of worms but maybe the drivers could claim they aren't signing singing along to the radio but are vocalizing actions like Japanese train operators to ensure focus and safety.

Edit: I saw the sing and it opened up my eyes

Soon to be followed by getting a write-up for breaking down crying in your vehicle due to stress and shitty wages.

It's good that Amazon is not dominant in Poland.

Can't restricting mouth movements be seen as a restriction on speech and people's right to talk about and form a union?

Why spend all the money union busting then do shit like this. Won't this just starts another round of unionization?

I know it's not the point, but what happens if you wear a mask? Either a cloth mask, or a Michael Myers mask. They'll probably think "wow, this guy isn't distracted at all! employee of the month!"

Welcome to the new norm, within 10 years every worker will be on camera full shift.

But we're too busy stopping literal fascism and nearly every GOP-packed court will uphold it as perfectly fine and normal for everyone making less than 150k a year.

I have a drive cam for work that dies something similar. While they don't ding us for singing, they will for everything else like us scratching our ear because it thinks there's an earpiece and we can't have any electronic devices including GPS. But the camera screaming "FOLLOWING DISTANCE" every time we get cut off or a car 3 semi truck lengths away in 25 taps their brakes and forcing us to slam the brakes so we don't get written up is perfectly safe.

Yeah singing is terrible for driving... It's much better to be bored to sleep

We were so preoccupied with whether capitalism would replace us with robots, we didn't stop to think if it would turn us into robots.

Wear a mask

I wonder if anyone has ever calculated how much a driver makes per delivery. Like if I buy a pizza, the delivery guy gets like $3 from wages if they make minimum wage and then whatever I tip. I’d be shocked if an amazon driver makes even a dollar per delivery, and some (majority?) of the deliveries are much more expensive than one pizza

"You really think you can tell me what I can do with my body?"

REPUBLICAN PARTY has entered the chat...

But the singing is how I distract myself from not having a pee break for 12 hours and my old soda bottle is almost full so I can't afford to take another piss

I pray for the downfall of Amazon.

wears a face mask

The National Labor Relations Board recently ruled that Amazon was illegally blocking delivery workers from unionizing. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/08/labor-board-confirms-amazon-drivers-are-employees-in-finding-hailed-by-union/

"What? No I wasn't singing, I just kept saying "FUCK YOU BEZOS" during my trips"

Jfc.

I recall several cases of "copyright infringement" that this reminds me of.

One case was an auto-shop that was just playing music on their stereo system or whatever

another case was an elderly couple that liked to sing songs together

we really have to get the DMCA under control. it does way more harm than good

I bet this is monitored by AI software

I'll add this to the "normal in America, totally illegal in the rest of the western world" list

Wow. This is some Orwellian nightmare fuel. I can see this becoming a thing in a lot of places if this is allowed

My nasal passages aren't properly developed or something so I have to regularly breathe through my mouth. Wonder if anyone can use that, a medical disorder, to sue after being fired.

Oh man...I want labor to have a massive comeback so soon, absolutely put the screws to the corpo scum.

I'm going to wager this was implemented to keep drivers from talking on the phone all day and because it's using machine vision it doesn't know the difference.

I refuse to believe that Amazon is real anymore.

Goddamn I'm glad I work for myself

Amazon is trying to be the government

Slight clarification to the headline: it's not the employee's cars they can't sing in, it's Amazon's.

Not that it makes it better, but my first thought was, "how would they know...?"

Does your employer reallly have the right to fire you because you sing in his car ? Is it legal in the US ?

This reminds me of that scene in the matrix.

Amazon is committing terrorism against themselves.

Someone should set up a protest against amazon by having vast numbers of people apply for their positions and go through the entire process, using up their time, only to finally decline to take the job on the grounds that they're not okay with this bullshit.

I mean Amazon started it's driving program to undercut UPS -A union shop. How is this not just scabs getting their comeuppance?

While none of us here can say for sure, I wonder if this is more forced by Amazon's fleet insurer raising rates rather than an evil directly from Amazon just because they can.

Amazon has roughly 30,000+ delivery vehicles. I don't know their accident rate. But any injury or accident lawyer can tell you that listening to music and singing and generally be-bopping down the road IS distracted driving. This will cause larger payouts per accident and also higher insurance rates. And it's low hanging fruit to go after in court. If Amazon is noticing the extra cost becoming an issue, it could well be the reason for such a draconian policy.

I'm not sayin'. I'm just sayin' it could be a driver, (pun intended), in this instance.