Projects To Watch Out For: Ladybird Browser

Hot take: Since it's a BSD licensed browser at some point in the future, there's going to be a company that funds it brings it to mainstream with their flavor, and then will over throw chromium in time. Replace an 'evil' with another 'evil'.

Servo hype

It's nice and all but usage of Swift is kind of not great.

Sounds fun, but I wish there were more people who'd invest in making Firefox's Gecko more easy to use (stretch goal: revive Proton, which is Electron but Firefox) instead of pushing a ton of effort into inventing a new thing.

That said, this is coming from SerenityOS (specifically, the founder and basically the entire community concentrating on building its browser instead of hacking the OS, resulting in a split), so I understand that it might be a lot harder to port large codebases to a new OS instead of than starting a new one.

Edit: It's Positron, not Proton

As someone insecure in their masculinity I don't know if u would use ladybird. Now if it was MANbird I would.

The devs have some problematic views, mainly transphobic and misogynistic.

There was a gpl licensed browser engine someone by hobby is writing from scratch. I think theese companies supporting ladybird just do so because of license that they can proprietarify(like chromium)

How is it progressing so fast compared to Servo? Isn't Servo being developed for a longer time?

It's interesting to see a new browser engine aside from Gecko and Chromium, especially with all the conundrum surrounding the Manifest v2 support.

What's the problem with the gecko engine?

We don't have anyone actively working on Windows support, and there are considerable changes required to make it work well outside a Unix-like environment.

We would like to do Windows eventually, but it's not a priority at the moment.

This is how you make “critical mass” adoption that much more difficult.

As much as I love Linux, if you are creating a program to be used by everyone and anyone, you achieve adoption inertia and public consciousness penetration by focusing on the largest platform first. And at 72% market share, that would be Windows.

I hope this initiative works. I really do. But intentionally ignoring three-quarters of the market is tantamount to breaking at least one leg before the starting gate even opens. This browser is likely to be relegated to being a highly niche and special-interest-only browser with minuscule adoption numbers, which means it will be virtually ignored by web developers and web policy makers.

i'd like to see a revival of webkit and an open source browser that uses it

There was a gpl licensed browser engine someone by hobby is writing from scratch. I think theese companies supporting ladybird just do so because of license that they can proprietarify(like chromium)

I feel like this is a dumb question but why do web engines need constant development? I thought we had an established standard for HTML. Once a web engine matches that standard isn't that sufficient?

All the code is hosted on GitHub. Clone it, build it, and join our Discord if you want to collaborate on it! We're looking forward to seeing you there.

So much for freedom when everything is done thru proprietary services under US jurisdiction.

I don't know if it's a good idea to build a new engine from scratch... Maybe it is but I don't know, behind an engine you need to have support and development, so this thing needs to be improved and supported along the versions to be safe, so I don't know if it's a good idea or not 🙃

Repost but still cool

Also I am surprised at how many sponsors there are and how many industries are represented. The project isn't that old