FBI Is Not Fully Convinced Trump Was Struck by a Bullet
FBI Is Not Fully Convinced Trump Was Struck by a Bullet

“There is some question about whether or not it was a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear,” FBI Director Christopher Wray said Wednesday.

FBI Is Not Fully Convinced Trump Was Struck by a Bullet
“There is some question about whether or not it was a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear,” FBI Director Christopher Wray said Wednesday.
Just the fact that Trump said he was hit by a bullet leads me to believe it's not true.
I had people shit all over me for saying that his injuries were more consistent with the glass shards, saying I am a nutty as the conspiracy theorist people.
I was deployed, my buddies got shot and hit, that’s not what a bullet grazing wound looks like. Fracture mechanics is also a very messy simulation, and when you introduce that much kinetic energy into a rupture situation like glass the stuff flies everywhere.
And here we are.
FBI Director Christopher Wray revealed during a marathon testimony on Wednesday that investigators still do not know if former President Donald Trump was grazed by a bullet or a piece of shrapnel during his attempted assassination.
But making this distinction doesn’t guarantee clicks, so let’s keep the headline from being too clear about it.
I think the FBI is saying they know where each round ends up and it's not in a trajectory that could have injured Trump. But they can't just say that to the Republican Congressman asking the question.
It's a distinction without a difference. "Trump wasn't injured by a bullet, he was injured by shrapnel from the bullet" doesn't let the FBI or the SS off the hook for missing this kid before he started shooting.
Yeah it's a stupidly thin hair to split, to the point where it's irrelevant. It doesn't matter if the bullet hit him or the shrapnel caused by the bullet hit him. The fact is there was a guy with a rifle within pissing distance. The government really fucked up.
Not that I'm either surprised nor disappointed by that fact. I personally suspect that the secret service treats the Trump detail as the dump assignment for all of the shittiest, bottom 1% of their security personnel.
Trump responded with a post on Truth Social while the hearing was still taking place, calling for Wray to resign—but not for anything he said about the assassination attempt. Instead, Trump lambasted the FBI director for claiming that he found his interactions with President Biden “uneventful and unremarkable.”
He’s such a batshit narcissist. And rapist. And a fraud. And a crook, a pathological liar, vain to the point of gruesome, and many other qualities that explain how he’s running the entire republiQan party.
He wants to be treated like royalty. Like a Tsar. Like Putin.
Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can't complete a coherent sentence. He's too old to lead our great country, he needs to drop out. He can't even remember his own lies anymore, he's out of it. It's sad and embarrassing.
Yeah. It was in 2016 too!
The distinction here is hardly relevant.
It is relevant to history. You can either tell the Trump story that a bullet hit his ear, or you can say that he caught shrapnel.
The only way that would be relevant would be if there was a determination that the shooter was trying to do some kind of ad hoc false flag thing, as opposed to writing his own name into history. Everything we know at this point indicates that the latter is true, and the former is not.
Whether Trump's injury was the result of a fired projectile or a piece of shrapnel, the injury was caused by an assassination attempt.
That's still not very relevant. Either way he was shot at and his ear was hit. Whether or not it was a whole bullet, part of a bullet after the bullet hit something, or something that the bullet busted off that hit his ear is of minimal importance.
If it was shrapnel then it dispels the idea that if he'd turned his head just a few inches it would've been death.
I mean, sure? But we are getting pretty far into "what if" territory that can never be known and doesn't really matter. If he was hit by a bullet, or shrapnel from a bullet doesn't change the fact he was injured by a shooter.
The only interesting thing about it might be that it once again points out the hypocrisy of the right.
They mocked John Kerry as undeserving of his purple hearts, and wore fake bandaids because he was hit with shrapnel.
Yeah, this feels like a good headline more than useful information.
Clickbait?!? From The Daily Beast?!? Impossible!!!
I think what you're trying to say is that "either way he still survived an assassination attempt", which I agree with, but the details still matter.
It’s relevant to the folks who believe in divine intervention, isn’t it?
It's relevant in that Trump is probably dishonest again.
The situation is shocking enough if he was hit by glass in an assassination attempt, but they couldn't resist lying and saying the bullet hit his ear.
A Secret service agent there said it was a piece of glass that sliced his ear which made a lot more sense with how it looks, and is in line with Trump's retelling of the story at the RNC, (he heard a buzz go by) but it doesn't really change anything from either side. Trump would have said Jesus personally blocked the bullet no matter what and getting hit by glass rather than a bullet doesn't make it much less traumatic of an event to imagine for those of us with empathy.
FBI Director Christopher Wray revealed during a marathon testimony on Wednesday that investigators still do not know if former President Donald Trump was grazed by a bullet or a piece of shrapnel during his attempted assassination.
There's no way a bullet "grazes" an ear and it's not obvious... He'd be legitimately missing cartilage, he was seen golfing days later without even a bandaid on it
I don't think at any point any source has said he was shot.
Just that he was shot at, and came up with a bleeding ear.
Not saying he cut it himself, just that it probably got scratched at some point.
Due to Trump's age and, well, just everything about him, he's most likely on blood thinners. Which would make even a tiny scratch bleed like a motherfucker. It makes you bleed fast and takes forever to clot. A normal nick that barely bleeds normally would look like a murder scene
Add in the adrenaline and it's really going to pump out.
The most logical explanation is (and always has been) a SS agent accidentally scratched his ear while he kept trying to stand up.
Beyond physical injury, Trump's description of the event -- along with Wray saying the FBI is unsure -- really makes me lean toward it not being a direct wound.
Trump said he heard bullets "whizzing" by. A supersonic bullet directly next to your ear isn't going to make a whizzing sound like on TV; there's going to be a loud, distinct crack from the sonic boom as it passes by.
I fully believe Trump would be leaning into that hard if that's what he'd heard. "It was like thunder next to my head. The loudest thunder. The greatest thunder you've ever heard. HUEG thunder." It's exactly the kind of thing he loves to play up.
The most logical explanation is (and always has been) a SS agent accidentally scratched his ear while he kept trying to stand up.
There’s blood on his hand right after he touches his ear, before he even ducks down
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1e2q931/the_photograph_sequence_of_the_bullet_that_hit/
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/14/us/politics/photo-path-trump-assassination.html
The take-away here seems to be not that Herr Furher is stealing valor, rather, that he was standing adjacent to it.
Best photo of the ear we have right now, far as I can find:
Armchair analysis: Maybe it sorta looks like some of the helix (both tubercle and crus sides) flesh is missing from a graze?
I don't know what I believe, but it doesn't matter. I just want the facts.
For some reason I remember initial reports saying glass struck him.
Yah, thought it was pretty straightforward, guess it sounds cooler to at it was a bullet
It wouldn't honestly surprise me. This is where we're at.
I bet any amount of money that he cut himself while he was down on the ground
He has blood on him before he even ducks down you dense wet cabbage.
I thought people had concluded that it was a glass shard from the teleprompter that the bullet hit. Is that debunked?
Afaik, it has neither been debunked nor confirmed.
It could have been a bee sting.
Some of the footage shown on TV had something whizzing by in a still picture of the scene. This could be anything of course bullet or shrapnel or the thing I saw was simply fake.
Whom vs who of ballistics dissembling. If it was a chunk of teleprompter that nicked him the bullet must have been only slightly off.
Whether it was a bullet or shrapnel that hit his ear is 100% irrelevant. He was the target of an assasination attempt. A piece of shrapnel could easily have taken him out just as much as the bullet itself. Whether he lived or died was far more determined by the position his head happened to be at that moment vs. whatever object actually struck him.
Maybe they knew about the kid. Then they swapped the munitions with fake ones. Next they told felon Trump to duck if he heard a noise, and to slam a ketchup packet on top his ear?
It's plausible.
And the guy who died, his chest just spontaneously developed a hole containing lead and copper?
Okay we need another theory.