You're not allowed to be lazy on your vacation

If you're not maniacally ripping every minute of theoretical fun out of your vacation with an insane timetable that begins at 0500, you're probably rich enough that your dietician has you fasting intermittently.
- Or you’re rich enough to afford breakfast from anywhere you want.
  
  Hotel breakfasts tend to be more expensive than eating out.
- I am thinking about it the other way around. Most people consider vacations as a chance to get rest, because they are working starting 5 in the morning for the rest of the year.
- That’s the conundrum - for many people anything that follows a timetable is not fun per definition.
- Why do you need a dietician to run an IF protocol?
  
  You will not find that I have said so. Hope this message finds you comfortably hungover and ten-fingered this Roswell Day
  
  If you have to ask, then you’re one of those … Poor People ™. 🧐

You got me fucked up if I'm waking up early on my master approved break from wage slaving. I'm waking up at noon and I'm having a bowl for breakfast.
- Bowl of peanut butter crunch.
  After ripping a steamroller of course
  
  ripping a steamroller across your favorite shirt.
  After getting high of course

We've let morning neurotypicals rule over us for too long!!
It is time to rebel & rebuilt!
\ (But a bit later, it's like 9am here)
- I honestly aggree. I arranged my shit quite well, started working late, worked till it's late. It is how I like it, I get really productive at ~15:00 till ~19:00. Now my children go to school (therefore I have to get up early) and they banned working after 18:00 at my company (thanks labour union, I get what you wanted to do, but you screwed me). My productivity dropped so much it stresses me out and I am constantly tired, because I don't sleep enough.
  
  Same - I've basically forced my employer to de facto let me work whenever I want.
  I mean, they just like the output they get and with literally no drawbacks, so it's especially shitty knowing that I've basically been fighting some ... traditions?
  Its literally just full on discrimination (as classification I mean), it's just too much of a dispersed problem to gain attention & we are all brainwashed (starring late is considered lazy yet finishing early isn't).
- We shall begin the revolution at the crack of noon!
  
  Groans* Noon?
  That's so early!
  
  Noon? That's when I eat breakfast! Can we do 5 pm?
- Rebel now. Rebuild ... ah, let's rebel first and then take a nap or have a snack. The rubble will be needing to be rebuild tomorrow still.
  
  No, we rebuild when normies are sleeping so when they wake up everything is already different, scheduled changed, work hours flexible, any reference to time before noon punishable.

And a sign up that says YOU MUST NOT TAKE THINGS FROM THE BREAKFAST ROOM!
Yeah, fuck you. Pockets full of churros.
- Damn I need to stay at your hotels. The ones I stay at usually you're lucky if you get fresh fruit
  
  I went to one that had a random box of dunkin Donuts 12ct that clearly had gone through their break room and nobody wanted the rest lol
  
  “Continental breakfast” means some shitty $0.50 box of dollar store knockoff brand cereal and a paper bowl.
  
  I think churros are pretty common at Comfort Inn. Maybe of the “Marriotts” as well—like Fairfield Inn maybe.
- ATTENTION ALL NINES: FOOD IS TO BE CONSUMED, NOT HOARDED
- I saw Pockets Full O' Churros live once! Good show...
- ahh that brings back my memory of sneaking out lettuce from the hotel cafeteria so I can give it to the local perfume & tea shop keeper's tortoise, talking with the locals is the best
  look at this tiny big chomp :)

This is why you don’t pay for breakfast (if you have the option), wake up late at your time and go discover a local spot and some food to eat as breakfast/lunch item.
- I believe that's called Brunch in classical English.

You know another way you're not allowed to be lazy on vacation?
If you get an AirBnB, you have to clean the place before you leave.
Hotels have cleaners who clean your room so you can leave it a mess. I shouldn't have to do chores when I'm on vacation. One of many reasons I prefer hotels.
- Only reason I use an AirBNB is if it's a unique location where there are no hotels (like a cabin in the woods on a river or something) but I agree, I only book ones that don't have a ridiculous checkout policy.
  I also hate that private equity has taken over towns with short term rentals making the rest of us pay more in rent.
  
  We once used it back when it really was just individual people with extra places renting them out short-term when we stayed in New York, but that was like 2009. And then my mom insisted on paying for one when she went with me to the Mayo Clinic earlier this year, but at least it was just someone renting out the bottom half of the duplex they owned and not a corporation... but yeah, unless there's just not another good option, I'm not doing AirBnB when it's my choice.
- AirBnB was better than hotels for like a year or two, then the landleeches got greedy
- Cleaning fee and also you have to clean up before you go. What is the cleaning fee for?
  
  What is the cleaning fee for?
  It goes towards the owner's next single-family home that they'll turn into a rental

Our vacation days generally consist of stalking the area for good food and doing tourist-y things to fill the time between meals. My partner's favorite thing to do during vacation downtime is to find more restaurants and cafes in the area for the next day, so hotel food is never a factor.
- “Vacation is basically just eating at different locations.”
  
  City vacations: restaurant hunting
  Nature vacations: grueling 6am deathmarch #87
  Beach vacations: binge drinking and washing sand out of things

The worst breakfast I ever had was at a Courtyard Marriott that was under renovation. Since then, I made a policy to find the best local breakfast diner any place I went, even if the hotel breakfast was included.
Haven't regretted it once.
- That was how I learned Boston has no good breakfast spots.
  Also the hotel only served breakfast on certain days of the week? What the fuck is that about. But they gave me a free glass of wine when I got back to the hotel one night.

I don't want the shitty hotel breakfast anyway, so there! 😛
- Have you been to a hotel breakfast in Europe? So heavenly
  
  Europe is a pretty big continent...the breakfast you get in the Netherlands is going to be different to the one you get in France or the UK.
  
  I don't know what hotels you go to but my experience has been pretty mid across most of Europe. Bog-standard continental breakfast buffets. Croissants, orange juice, cereal, toast, all of mediocre quality.
  Not terrible as it is, but you can likely get infinitely better breakfast by hopping over to any cafe across the street.
  
  Strongly disagree, I've stayed in a fair few hotels around the world. Best are usually US or Asia(not China)
  
  Eh, I've had better in every restaurant around the hotel.
  
  I haven't. Where's the best? I've always wanted to see Belgium
  
  Can confirm, been to hotels all over Europe, even the fancy a la carte ones are fairly shitty if you dont need breakfast like a normie morning person.

It's because they don't want to give out free food (but want to make it seem like they do want to give out free food), so they will make it available only when people are less likely to go for it.
- Free food? Since when is the hotel food free?
  Here you always have to pay for it even if you usually do it when booking
  
  In the US several hotels will offer a "continental breakfast" included with the stay. I guess you could argue that it's not really free, considering it's factored into your stay at the hotel, but there is technically not a separate charge for it and it's considered an "amenity". I know that this is not necessarily common in other places, so I thought I would mention in case you were not aware.

I don't know where everyone is staying but I normally get a choice of single serve cereal bowls, bagels with maybe 3 types of spread, some type of juice, coffee, milk, and occasionally a selection of fruit. Everything is served with cheap plastic or cardboard not silverware, glass, cloth or ceramic.
- I honestly wouldn't know because they clean that shit up at 9:30.
  
  I have never seen a hotel breakfast that wasn't being put away by 9am.
- Pretty much every hotel without “inn” in the name has at least reconstituted egg foam, bacon, and sausage.
- You forgot the waffle/ pancake machine.
- I went to a 3-star hotel that was also doing this. Their free breakfast also includes eggs that came from a carton.
- That would be a continental breakfast. What's shown in the picture is closer to an English breakfast
  
  Holy fuck you guys have low expectations for a continental breakfast 😂
  
  The US doesn't have anything called an English breakfast outside of restaurants which specifically cater to that. Aside from what looks like quiche, that looks like a pretty standard continental breakfast.
- I think good hotel breakfast peaks at the middle of the price curve.
  I stayed at a La Quinta by Portland airport and they had pancakes, Belgian waffle machines with butter and syrup, biscuits, bacon, eggs, cereal, fruit, juice... For a $115 a night room.
  I've stayed at the Four Seasons in Chicago and they had bread and juice.
- 4-5 star hotels in Europe tend to serve quality food in a decent tableware.
  
  1-3 star hotels do as well
- I travel a lot for work, and this is my experience in and around Germany (even for small, family owned, 10 bedroom hotels):
  3 kinds of bread rolls
  2 types of bread to cut by yourself
  Also soft, crustless, white bread (aka toast)
  Butter and 3 kinds of cream cheese
  4-10 types of cheese
  4-8 types of cold cut meats
  3 jams/jellies
  Honey
  Nutella
  Liver pâté
  Scrambled or boiled egg
  1 type fried sausage
  1-3 types of Müsli (cereal mix with oats and nuts or fruits)
  2-3 types of box cereal (the sweet kind like fruit loops)
  Yoghurt plain and fruit-flavoured
  Quark dessert
  Canned fruit mix
  Fresh fruit
  Croissants or muffins or Madeleines
  optional waffles or pancakes
  For drinks:
  Orange juice
  Multivitamin juice
  Coffee
  Hot water bar with 3-12 types of tea

All the hotels i ever stay in anymore don't have a restaurant or a bar just bare bones. I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express once and it had a pancake machine
- Holiday Inn Express is the most miserable breakfast I've ever had in a hotel. The selection was basically lard with sugar on it, and whatever drink you chose tasted of chlorine.
  I'm normally not much of a breakfast person, but work had booked me in at HIE once, and as I had a long day ahead I had to force myself to eat something. And the selection available didn't exactly make it easier.
  After that I always make sure to book the hotel myself. I'm not that picky in terms of hotel, as long as the eatery is decent.
  
  whatever drink you chose tasted of chlorine
  Well that's concerning
  
  Yeah, uh... Don't know how to say this, but if your water smells like chlorine, I don't recommend drinking it. Might be ok for survival, but it's definitely not for regular consumption.
- Pancake machine sounds fancy.
  
  Thanks! It's my nickname!
- I like Drury Inns. They do have the standard "breakfast ends at 9:30" thing which sucks for late sleepers, but they also have a 5-7 pm "happy hour" with snacks and both alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks provided gratis. It's a way to avoid paying for dinner if you can do it and you don't care about your dinner being snacky stuff, but if you're on vacation, let dinner be snacky stuff.

It's so weird seeing almost 500 upvotes on a post like this on lemmy where, based on comments, like 90% of it's users can barely afford rent, let alone going on vacation and staying at a place that offers breakfast.
- I would expect most lemmings, like myself, to have spent more time in company-paid hotel rooms than vacation hotel rooms
  
  I think that's a very strange assumption.
  
  Can confirm.
  Source: I think last time I paid for a hotel myself was 2009. I have no idea how many nights I've spent on company expense since then, but it must be in the hundreds.
  
  Bold assumption but it checks out for me. It is based on lemmy being so tech heavy?
- "You can't be struggling if you've stayed in a hotel before."
- We remember those placer from when we were kids though.
- I haven't been on a holiday since I was a kid, but I remember these hotel breakfasts.
- There are also people outside of america. In my country i could afford to go on a week-long vacation every year in europe with basically a minimum-wage salary if that is what i want to prioritize in life.
- I mean, I travel for work a lot and have to stay weeks in hotels. And weeks means weekends, so yeah I can relate. There's a lot of people I meet around the world that travel like me and wouldn't be able to afford those same hotels for a vacation... like me lol
- I don't believe that. There is no way Lemmy is that poor on average
- Could it be possible that these are different groups of people? Lemmy has like 70,000 monthly users now.
  
  45k according to fedidb, but I don't know how accurate that one is.
- Oh it's just the usual people that complain that they can't afford anything but somehow they've visited 35 countries so far in their life and are planning their next trip to add one more to the list.
- Well I mean, the majority of hotels don't even serve free breakfast anymore once they realized they could get away with not having it or making it a paid thing. This used to be common a while ago, when I'm sure Lemmy users used to be taken on vacations by their parents.
- Pretty sure there are more than 10% of Europeans on this site.
  Not everything is as dystopian as the US.
- Lemmings only like to pretend to be poor.

I love having breakfast early in the monring in hotels when most people are still asleep. I can take my time, read in peace, no queue for the coffee, etc...
- I am the same. I wake up early regardless and my wife and daughter don't, so I can go downstairs and have breakfast and hang out down there for a while as they sleep and then get them up 20 minutes before they stop serving it.

Why would I have breakfast right before going to sleep?
- Breakfast to end a heavy night is awesome though. Just like the classic fast food on the way home. Hotel breakfast is even a classic for that too.

Can't afford to go anywhere and sleep in a Hotel anyways.

Why would I spend the time and money on a vacation just to waste it on being lazy? I can do that at home. On vacation I'm up before sunrise, take a shower, and grab breakfast before I start my itinerary for the day.
- If I wanted to wake up before my biological clock tells me to and follow a schedule, I could just go to work.
  
  I'm a freelance software dev, you just made me realized I should vacation on a schedule so I have some variety in my life.
  
  I paid for this uncomfortable hotel mattress, and I'm going to damn well use the fucking thing!
- Ok dad
- That sounds like work with extra steps.
- You can also maximize your time sleeping in too. Stay out and have fun on the town, head back to the hotel at 3am. Some people are night owls, some people like mornings. Nothing wrong with either.
  Personally waking up before sunrise feels awful for my body and brain function, but I get it.
- We have different vacation philosophies. Mornings are nebulous unplanned times for everyone to do what they want like sleeping in, relaxing by the pool, getting brunch at a nice place, and light sight seeing. I usually don't have scheduled goals/events for the day until afternoons and evenings while on vacation. I can't enjoy being somewhere new if I'm too burnt out and exhausted to participate and experience it properly.
- Because you could spend more of your time in the evening, when there are more things to do in town.
  Mornings are boring. Evenings are exciting.

Its still weird to me how English breakfast is (that much of) a thing.
Like a couple of centuries ago for the difference in the sheer standard of living, sure, maybe at that point it was luxurious in terms of ingredients alone, ... but still?
- English breakfast is like the only decent thing to come out of that place
  
  Which isn't a high bar, but I agree with you.
  
  You don’t like Fish and Chips?
  English food is fine as long as it is not prepared by the English.
- It's because the alternative is "continental breakfast" which consists of a few slices of warm ham, tiny slices of bread and a bunch of fruit that's already on the turn.
  
  That's why I'm sticking with alpine/Austrian breakfast: Real bread (Google "Schwarzbrot"), real cereals (a mix of oats, dried fruits and nuts, with hot milk) or Sterz (a breakfast made from ground maize, couldn't find a translation) with apples and raisins. Depends on how much time I have and what I'm doing on that day (before a long hike or a long day of skiing Sterz is the best).
  
  I guess it was named so during the early 40s.

Lol I never got this.
- Most continental breakfasts I've seen run from 6-9AM and I've always interpreted it as a sneaky tactic hotels use to usher guests quickly out the door given that standard checkout time is usually 11AM.
  
  It's not sneaky, most would happily tell you it's a combination of that plus not wasting food for the few people who would normally meander out at the crack of noon
  
  That and I think the people getting breakfast that early are on a business trip rather than on vacation
  
  There are two types of hotels: those who serve early breakfasts because most of their clients are early birds, and all inclusives where most of the clients are night owls. You're just staying at the wrong type of hotel.
- Honestly it's never worth it.
  Maybe I'm in a fortunate position. But I have never been to a place where breakfast was as good as an average cafe.
  From my experience: If Hotel A and Hotel B were pretty identical the same but for $20 more, you get all you can eat breakfast, don't bother. Just buy breakfast.
- Never got the breakfast, or...?
- You clearly weren't paying enough. Some of those hotels are 200 a night minimum
- I guess most normal people wake up pretty early, even on vacation.
  
  A lot of people who are staying at those hotels and bothering with the continental breakfast are there for work, not vacation.

Im allowed to be lazy everyday if i want

Just get used to eating hours-old food and you can get there at 10 just before closing time.
The staff might look at you funny, but you can wake up at any time you want and set your own schedule.
- Where are you staying that the breakfast is open that late on a weekday?
  
  Many hotels do 7-10 instead of 6-9. Depends on whether it's a tourist location or worker-heavy
  
  /shrug
  A middle-of-the-road priced business hotel in Brazil, and that's all I can say to that. Stayed there for a concurso público (no earthly clue how to translate that) two months ago.
  The thing was at 12pm which made it rather inconvenient to get lunch before the event, so I slept in, arrived at breakfast at 9:50, there were still half a dozen people there, food was a bit old but I got what I needed.

Life hack, you are absurdly drunk at 3am asking for French toast and Cheerios. Me 1, Hotel 0

Thanks for reminding me of the high school days. Very painful memories.

- as someone who regularly brings a literal suitcase of bagels back from NYC to my uncivilized home state, I know the exact feeling you mean
  (protip to be un-fire-able: bribe coworkers with new york bagels)

Pull you in
Maximize profits by minimizing expenditure.

I love how they call it a continental breakfast like it's supposed to be fancy but everybody on earth actually wants an English breakfast
- they call it a continental breakfast like it's supposed to be fancy
  They call it continental because it's in the style of what is served on the (European) continent.
  
  what I mean to say is, I think they choose a continental breakfast because it sounds fancy and is cheap. not that they made up the word Continental for it
  
  Almost every half-decent hotel I've stayed in on the continent has a self-service mix of both. The breads, hams and cheeses of a continental but also heated cloches of eggs, bacon, sausage, hash browns etc. Also it's served from about 7.30 to 10.30
  If they sell you a shit breakfast, leave a one-star review and make a difference. Instead of rolling over and having your belly tickled by capitalism like the yanks do
  Some shocking breakfasts in this thread but more shocking that some people just shrug and go "It is what it is"
- Most hotels outside the US and Canada actually do a legit good breakfast. Not this cheap carb garbage they do in the States.
  
  I was given a piece of toast and an orange when I went to a hotel breakfast in the UK. In Germany, I think they laughed at me when I asked if breakfast was included.
  
  Most hotels outside the US and Canada actually do a legit good breakfast.
  I really think you have this backwards- at least in my experience. I wonder if you're just staying in nicer hotels when you're on vacation.
- I love it when the breakfast is hot water and instant oatmeal
  
  That's honestly better than most continental breakfasts.
- Please speak for yourself. If I had to eat an English breakfast before 6pm that’d be a lost day for me. Because that’s dinner food.

10am is not sunrise

Isn't it usually like 10am? If you can't be fucked to get free food that's on you.
- The last time I stayed at a hotel, they stopped filling the breakfast bar at like 7 and served whatever was left until 9.
  I used to travel for work quite a bit, and that one had one of the more generous breakfast offerings.
  
  Your company sent you to some shit hotels then. I think the earliest breakfast end time I've been to is 8am, and that one was a bit more expensive than the others. Most hotels I stay at serve breakfast until 10am.
  
  Was it a Super8 or Motel 6? I bet it was. No place that offers breakfast and is also worth staying at at any price does that. On the bright side you now know where not to go.
- No hotel anywhere only serves breakfast for one hour. Nice try though.
- 10 is late for most of them - 9 is pretty common. If you're at the kind of vacation place where you're hanging out and relaxing, maybe staying up late, waking up at 8 so you can get ready and get down to eat breakfast, doesn't feel like last relaxing, which is OP's point. Of course people can do it, but a lot of times we want to sleep in on vacation.
  
  The trick is to get food and then go back to sleeping in, but with a full belly
- Seems like it used to be 10, but everywhere I've been in recent years is 11.