Please think of the trans kids and the LGBT folks and all the women affected by abortion laws, and drag queens trying to make their art. Come on Americans, you can do it.
This will also work for conservatives, though. They will imsist that the most vulnerable people are unborn children, therefore they should vote anti-abortion
Will = have been for decades and will continue to do so. Up next is contraception because they will act like unfertilized eggs are children next.
If every gamete is considered viable, then a wet dream is a catastrophic loss of human lives, so puberty blockers should be mandatory before marriage
As well as the trans children thing and the belief that indoctrination is behind it
They can't be something if they're not something yet.
Idk.
On the one hand Trump might go to prison for the rest of his life if he loses this election.
On the other hand most of my policy goals are at least considered by Biden.
So I think I'll ignore you and happily vote to send Trump to prison.
Wtf are you going on about?
I'm making a dumb joke about how Trump is vulnerable do to his crimes.
I like how you assume this is a pro-Trump post.
Wait... is it a pro-Trump post?
Respond to the wrong thing? They're not talking about your pro trump posts.
The struggling landlord who isn't even being tipped 😭
"I'm sure letting the fascists win chasing the rapturous dream that this time surely it will teach the DNC "its lesson" is 100% in the interests of that trans kid! And I get to make that judgement call because the list the fascists put out says how much further down the kill list I am from them!"
Go ahead and downvote me. They’re used to it.
When you downvote me, this is who you're really downvoting
One of the news stations in Texas has a "foster kid of the week" kind of article on their FB page. It's so sad, these kids just want a mom and dad that love them. Always a bunch of thoughts and prayers in the comments section.
As a person who participated as a parent in the foster system in Texas, I'm here to say that its about as abusive and dysfunctional as you could possibly imagine. Kids get shuttled between foster homes at the whim of state administrators. The entire focus of the program is to minimize how much they spend. The well-being of the children is an absolute afterthought. You can and will be sued by the agency if you voice any kind of complaint or try to act in the best interest of the child in your care. And even in the middle of said lawsuit, they'll try to assign you another kid, because their left-hand doesn't know what their right-hand is doing.
Its a physical, financial, and emotional pain machine for everyone involved. Absolutely nightmarish.
On the other hand, you have "domestic adoption" which amounts to a bunch of expensive private agencies doing all the things CPS is supposed to be doing while CPS officials provide a rubber stamp. Significantly less traumatic for the people involved. But because the private system is entirely funded by the adoptive parents, you're talking about spending $50-80k to cover the budgets of all these little independent agencies tasked with finding candidates, vetting households, and caring for expectant mothers.
The Texas model for adoption is the closest thing you can image to a full privatization of social services. It exists by, of, and for upper class predominantly white childless adults. I feel slimy every time I have to interact with it, and the only thing that keeps me going is the idea that I might be keeping some innocent kid out of the clutches of the disastrous public system.
Them too! Absolutely.
IMHO foolish to focus on the most vulnerable rather than how most people are vulnerable in some way or another and putting foremost in policy messaging changes that would help large numbers of people.
I sympathize with the plight of trans folks and other smaller disadvantaged minority groups but half of Americans are barely making ends meet, and America is falling further behind in manufacturing, infrastructure and technology/research, all while bathroom bills and grooming narratives are decade+ old very effective wedge issues.
Help the most vulnerable certainly but put front and foremost how the vast majority would be helped if you want to motivate voters and win converts.
A rising tide lifts all boats.
That's what I'm saying, that's a winning message, rather than focusing on hauling ashore the few boats deemed most deserving by whatever metric and implying the others are less important and can wait.
Weirdly enough, it was Adam Smith, the first proto-capitalist, that came up with that idea.
He clearly hadn't foreseen the possibility of monopolies and abusive trade practices.
The most vulnerable people I know are being targeted by a campaign of genocide. How do I vote in their best interests?
Assuming you're talking about Palestine, probably the one that hasn't told donors that he plans to crush protests and deport demonstrators on the matter
And disabled or chronically ill people!
I can't wait to be on the chopping block!
I mean, almost unironically, except that I would hate to give fascists any satisfaction.
Uhm...yeah. Everybody is against gender affirming surgery for minors.
Contrary to what right-wing media likes to claim, it doesn't happen.
What does happen for transgender youth is puberty blockers. That allows them to delay the hormonal changes of puberty so that they may make an easier physical transition, if they so choose, when they are an adult. In the meantime, trans girls can more easily tuck and won't develop a 5 o'clock shadow or deep voice, trans boys will not be growing breasts or menstruating, and both retain more a more gender-ambiguous frame.
But puberty blockers have other uses besides gender-affirming care, and they've long been proven incredibly safe and non-permanent.
While I can see that early intervention with puberty blockers would help transgirls, it seems like transboys would need to take something more than just testosterone to get the height growth, once they reach the age of majority. HGH, maybe?
It's interesting how much of the language around anti-trans rights centers around 'men pretending to be women, and they entirely forget about transmen.
Literally nobody is performing gender-affirming surgery on minors. It's difficult enough to get as an adult lmao
Ever heard of Project 2025?
It calls for barring transgender people from the military and to stop what it considers the “toxic normalization of transgenderism” across the government and American society. It seeks to abolish the president’s Gender Policy Council, “which it views as promoting abortion and the ‘new woke gender ideology,’”
I think they're vastly less than perfect and I don't want any of this for Americans but I want outright fascism less.
if the line isnt drawn somewhere things will only get worse
Are we seriously using this as a wedge between one candidate or the other? I'd love to have full trans rights here like any other reasonable country but if the alternative is authoritarianism 2016 but with an actual plan this time then I'm not going to complain if I don't get everything I want.
The most vulnerable person is a black trans woman, she is also a conservative, I did not think people like her existed until I met her.
She's in the sunken place.
That's where "best interests" diverges from "desired candidate".
I think you mean masochistic attention seekers.
The most vulnerable would probably be some kid in Gaza without access to clean water.
But I haven't met them.
Can I vote for them and, if so, who do I choose?
Given the available choices, and acknowledging the realities of game theory, the choice seems pretty obvious.
Your writing style and intelligence remind me of someone I used to know...
who I fell in love with. He was very verbally intelligent and had brown eyes. I still fantasize about fleeing nuclear war and accidentally bumping into him in another country in which he has fewer romantic options due to many people affected by the war. It's sort of a warped fantasy on many levels.
I'm nearly certain you aren't him because of the motorcycle post. And you use Firefox and he used Macs. He probably uses Safari or whatever stupid closed-source browser comes with those systems. I never understood Macs. I should have just bought one and pretended to like it, but I doubt it would have reeled him in. I was naive back when I met him and a Windows user, so also incredibly stupid. Even if I had used Linux back when I met him, or morally caved and pretended to like Macs, he probably still wouldn't have found me to be an appealing option, hence the fantasy of nuclear war and encountering him in a limited options situation. "I am so sad there are so few survivors from this terrible war," I would lie, feigning dismay. (It's a really fucked up fantasy.) You have a similar linguistic style as he did.
In any case, your logic is sort of flawed because under a game theory perspective, my vote will not matter. I am not in a swing state. Game theory looks at things from a hyper-logical decision-tree and probabalistic perspective, and no matter what I do in this situation the outcome is the same. What you wrote sounded clever, but is technically wrong.
If you mean Biden is the least cruel choice, I don't know if you are right. Trump went to Wharton and likes tall buildings and avoiding large unneeded costs. (I'm bracing myself to be inundated with down-votes.) Trump does not show a lot of empathy to minorities, but he's cheap. I could see him using diplomacy to end things more quickly than Biden through fake flattery, and even if there was a Potemkin village aspect to his negotiation that was ethically one-dimensional, results are results. At the same time, I don't think Trump has any pesky mirror neurons to affect how he feels regarding suffering and death, so any success would be secondary to his self-absorption, which could still be effecacious.
But I also believe Trump is in the pocket of Putin, which could make nuclear war less likely, although he would cede to every Putin demand. This of course would wreck my fantasy of having to flee nuclear war and bumping into the brown eyed guy I'm in love with in a strange country... For various extremely convoluted reasons, randomly calling him or emailing him may not be effective. Basically many romantic rivals would have to no longer exist as a result of some apocalyptic hellscape for me to have a chance. What would be dystopia to some would be my only chance... at victory.
Ultimately I could never vote for Trump because of how he treats people. I don't want to normalize trash culture, even rich white trash culture. I just don't know if I would vote for Biden as a symbolic gesture. He's great to trans people but his presidency is part of incredible cruelty and I am not sure I want to add my meaningless rubber stamp to what is going on, as though kindness to LGBT people offers some sort of political absolution for complex and unseen atrocities. I adhere to the political system as it exists with its corruption out of fear, not loyalty, and voting at all seems to be supporting something corrupt and rotten. I believe in democracy, but I can't change the mind of everyone. In a different world in which I had ended up less lonely, I could have had the strength to change minds with words, but as it stands any voting just seems like complicity.
It's shockijg to me this was so downvoted.
Why is it political that a child civilian in a war zone without access to good water is vulnerable?
President Hill, first name Ant was introduced to the American public this morning. He and only he will finally solve America's addiction to shoes and magnifying glasses. From. Now on, only negative magnification glasses will be legal. Shoes will need ultra soft silicone thread made by AntSaver a Hill company...no relation.
Fascist might become vulnerable soon if we start swinging
The palestinian kids?
Sorry forgot.
Biden seemed a bit vulnerable. But is it in his best interest to continue as a president or to retire? /s
That requires ring wingers to have any sense of empathy, which they lack.
Yes I will vote in the interest of the straight white cis male professional comedians, who I'm sure we can all agree are the most oppressed and vulnerable people in all of history.
One fucking hundred percent this!
Conservatives:
(But not if it makes me feel like I’m losing anything, or if I have to pay any taxes for it)
Democrats need to pull Biden and give us a candidate worth voting for.
Biden is not a suitable candidate. There is still plenty of time to get someone new.
Isn't there still time for this. I don't really follow all this too closely, but I heard someone say that the recent debate was a first because neither has been fully endorsed by their party as the person who will be on the ballot. IDK if that is true or not, I just live here (on the internet).
That'd be my dog. Who is out there making policy for my dog? Show me the politician who will criminalize the people who kill their ex's dog after a divorce and shit like that.
I'm thinking of the millions of people in future generations. The billions of people who get impacted by US policies. It can't always be the "least bad option". Third party or bust.
If you do this, you wont vote, you will shoot politicians
For everyone downvoting, at least get to know your options: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudia_De_la_Cruz
Well you seem like a delight.
On it
Seriously.
Biden needs to step aside ASAP so that we can get a candidate with a better than 50/50 chance at beating trump.
trump is too dangerous to risk it, voters and the party both need to do everything possible to stop him.
For the party, that means not running Biden
Unfortunately current polling hasn’t shown someone like that yet. Harris would probably be first up but it’s not an advantage starting again this late unfortunately.
Unfortunately current polling
Can you like a source who's method isn't quick and dirty polls by a company who makes whatever polls there donors want and whose founder didn't get arrested last election for using his companies polls to try and influence election results so their literal bets on elections would pay off?
Bonus points if the founder also didn't solicite their employees to enter an illegal straw donor scheme.
Hint:
Not from this absolute shit show
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_for_Progress
Quick edit:
The poll your likely referencing compared pro-Israel moderates to Biden.
All it shows is the people dont just not want Biden, they don't want Biden because of his policy stances and they don't want someone else with the same conservative policy
Meanwhile Biden is legitimizing right wing boogeymen about trans kids: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/health/transgender-surgery-biden.html
Absolutely correct.
You're asking us to vote Green, right?
I’ll put them top of my ranked choice ballot
You should probably look into Jill Stein before saying this. She would be above Trump but I'd take a lot of mainstream Dems over someone who seems compromised by other nations and regularly spouts conspiracy-level insanity. That fits both Trump and Stein.
I love this response though. Direct and to the point.
Don't worry, the people who need to listen to this will take one look at this and say "Well, I'M voting with my HEART", because their heart tells them to do everything they can to enable fascism in the US.
I didn't realize your heart told you to do everything you can to enable fascism in Israel as well, but considering how enthusiastic you are about making sure Trump wins so he can "help Israel finish the job", I suppose that shouldn't be surprising.