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Where the DNC took in money for “the winner” of the primary, and gave it to Clinton to spend on the primary to skirt campaign finance law?
Yeah, I remember it. The DNC was against Bernie, and did everything they could to stop him so Hillary could get the nomination. They likely would’ve chosen Hillary even if he won the primary anyways.
My point is more it’s the DNC who runs all of that, not some magic free and fair democracy. They’re still the one choosing who runs.
- ... do you think the DNC is the government?
  
  They're a part of our corrupt and unrepresentative electoral system. They don't need to be the government for them to fuck up our democracy.
  
  Good thing you can go down to your county DNC headquarters and start actively working to change things
  
  Well, I imagine if you're Chinese, you can go start changing the CPC as well.
  
  You're avoiding the point.
  
  Literally? No, but I’ve posted about that in response to the other poster so you can read that.
- Where the DNC took in money for “the winner” of the primary, and gave it to Clinton to spend on the primary to skirt campaign finance law?
  So now we've changed from "The state chooses our candidates!" to "There's party favoritism"? Also not what fucking happened, bad as it was, but facts are so unexciting in comparison, aren't they?
  Yeah, I remember it. The DNC was against Bernie, and did everything they could to stop him so Hillary could get the nomination. They likely would’ve chosen Hillary even if he won the primary anyways.
  Jesus fucking Christ.
  My point is more it’s the DNC who runs all of that, not some magic free and fair democracy. They’re still the one choosing who runs.
  Bruh, considering that your opinion is that the DNC would've just nullified the primary if Bernie had won, I'm pretty sure your opinion on American elections is worth jack shit.
  
  So the article stating they gave Clinton control of the victory fund during the primaries is not the same as… giving her money collected by the DNC to allow her collect more than legally allowed by campaign finance laws? Cuz…. The article goes into exactly that?
  You can keep pretending america is perfect I guess man. Have fun. I’m just saying it’s not. Our elections are not some magical choice of the people who runs. It’s billionaires, DNC, and RNC running the show.
  In smaller elections it’s possible for a non-DNC candidate to win, mostly because the DNC has literally given up on small elections, or Florida as a whole, but in larger ones they will all but guarantee they lose.
  
  So the article stating they gave Clinton control of the victory fund during the primaries is not the same as… giving her money collected by the DNC to allow her collect more than legally allowed by campaign finance laws? Cuz…. The article goes into exactly that?
  Did you not read the fucking article.
  Or did you just not understand it.
  You can keep pretending america is perfect I guess man. Have fun. I’m just saying it’s not.
  Nice backpedal. This you?
  I mean, yall really think Hillary Clinton was not chosen by the state? Or Biden/Harris last year?
  Not really defending China here but, it’s not like our bullshit is better. The DNC and RNC run their bullshit how they want.
  
  Sorry, what are you reading in the article? The “technically this wasn’t illegal” and “I didn’t find other evidence other than this funding agreement”?
  It goes into how she skirted campaign finance laws. The DNC is allowed to collect like 15x more than individual campaigns. Allowing the Clinton campaign access to that about a year before the decision for the nominee, means she had access to up to 16x the amount Bernie sanders had access to. Was it technically legal? Sure. Because the DNC is usually controlled by an incumbent there’s nothing making it illegal for that to happen, is it effectively just skirting campaign finance law? Yes.
  I’m sure it’s legal for the CCP to choose the nominees as well. Does not make either of these right.
  (Also, yes I know the DNC and RNC are legally “not the government” but to pretend they don’t have legal control over primaries, have part in actual elections, and help control all of their elected officials who make up the government is a stupid fucking distinction that does not matter unless you’re the type who believes all laws are good and thus it’s morally right as long as it is legal.)
  Also, sorry, saying “we’re not better than China” and saying “just saying we’re not perfect” are… so… different? Like, is the DNC/RNC LITERALLY the state? No. But are they effectively the state? Yeah. Are the perfectly exactly controlling it? No. Are they effectively controlling it? Yes. My point mostly being I’m over people pretending we’re way better than China in every way possible when we’re just as fucking bad. We need to accept we are not good so we can make fucking improvements, not deflect elsewhere to pretend we’re the best.
  
  means she had access to up to 16x the amount Bernie sanders had access to.
  jfc, you are repeatedly demonstrating that you didn't read or understand the article, or the issue at hand, in favor of some weird conspiracy that I'm sure all your internet buddies have asspatted you for parroting.
  I’m sure it’s legal for the CCP to choose the nominees as well. Does not make either of these right.
  Even if we took your bizarre misreading of events at face value, "The DNC funded one candidate over another during an election" and "The state chooses who the population is allowed to vote for" are fucking miles away from each other.
  Also, sorry, saying “we’re not better than China” and saying “just saying we’re not perfect” are… so… different?
  Yes. Those two things are very different. Anyone with a basic level of literacy would understand that.

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