Ziz update thread, started 19 February
Ziz update thread, started 19 February
the old one is three weeks old, let's start another
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They believe in race and IQ, that people who code javascript blog a lot (no a lot) are superior (and should have all the money and power), and that the time of democracy is over. (and that some people should be reduced to biodiesel). They don't believe the world has gotten less violent, they believe in corporal punishment, leather jackets make you look cool no matter the situation, etc etc.
Ow and that you can build Skynet using Turing machines.
This is not to be confused with what the zizians believe, they believe a bespoke set of other wild things. But I have never really looked much into them.
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The Zizians believe in IQ, that animals are ethically equivalent to humans, that all people contain exactly two personality cores corresponding to the two hemispheres of their brains, that every personality core is either intrinsically good or intrinsically evil and less than 5% are good. They believe in violence as a form of mutually assured destruction: you should always escalate every conflict to the maximum in order to dissuade hypothetical agents from blackmailing you. And the stuff about Skynet.
I think to understand properly it should be recognized that while the personality-core stuff is out of left field, all of the other beliefs are pretty much just logical conclusions of mainstream rationalist thought. For instance Yudkowsky has to repeatedly explain that he's not in favor of violence (except when he's advocating for bombing data centers) precisely because it's really easy to reach that conclusion from what he's written. The Zizians mainly differ by reaching that logical conclusion and being willing to act on it.
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all people contain exactly two personality cores corresponding to the two hemispheres of their brains, that every personality core is either intrinsically good or intrinsically evil and less than 5% are good
If you have one of each, does that make you neutral? Now how is the Lawful-Chaotic alignment constructed? Does it reside in the kidneys?
I want to roll up a Chaotic Neutral Rogue Halfling.
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You may have to settle for Sanguine Evil or Phlegmatic Good.
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in order to dissuade hypothetical agents from blackmailing you
There's also a whole thing with Yud accepting the many worlds interpretation as obvious truth that leads to (some) rationalists believing that getting killed in one timeline helps your surviving parallel selves by bolstering your case of being unblackmailable by said hypothetical agents, who are also from the future, which is why you can't negotiate with them directly.
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I was not aware of this, failed my constitution roll, and have taken psychic damage
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you should always escalate every conflict to the maximum in order to dissuade hypothetical agents from blackmailing you.
Ah not understanding the escalation ladder (or knowing it exists, and just going all in every time because they don't get it) a common issue, slightly more common among younger nerds it seems (Made worse by Enders Game), but also fascists (somebody shared a story on bsky where they had violently (fists etc) gotten rid of some fascists at an event, who later returned to do a drive by shooting).
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Also "return the offense thousandfold" figures in LaVeyan satanism I think (cross referencing unsuccessful; too many black metal bands in search results) as a counterpoint to by far the least observed christian guideline of turn-the-other-cheek.
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LaVeyan satanism
As I said. Nerds.
black metal bands
Again. (Love that there seem to be two kinds of Black Metal bands (well three kinds, but the popular ones are posers and not trve nor kvlt, except for their first album), the ones very proud they are basing their songs on lord of the rings, and the other kind you know the one)
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leather jackets make you look cool no matter the situation
Finally something me and the crazies can agree upon, at least until it’s too warm out.
Curtis yarvin and his support by the worlds most powerful people is terrifying.
Back when I was in high school (graduated 2007) was the start of the push for a focus on STEM and a defunding of the humanities. Way back then I warned it would lead to perfect little tech drones capable of aiding those who want to destroy the world but incapable of having any understanding as to why or of history itself. They defunded art because art is one of the most unbiased forms of learning history. A picture is worth a thousand words, yada yada.
I fucking hate being a Cassandra. Fucking hate it.
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Finally something me and the crazies can agree upon, at least until it’s too warm out.
at least until it’s too warm out.
So you don't agree. Musk wears that thing everywhere (yes yes, not literally everywhere, but a lot. Also he seems to have several) that thing must have a horrible ... smell.
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