Is this vandalism?
Is this vandalism?
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People are pathetic.
Absolutely! I mean look at that sad sack of shit on the sticker in the photo!
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It's funny either way
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Technically, yes.
In my mind, whether or not this person deserves it depends on when they bought the truck. If they ordered it long before Elmo began showing us how insane he really was, then they're just a bit of a douche. If they bought it since the salute, they deserve more than a sticker.
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by the time the cybertruck was announced he was very publicly insane already.
also regardless of musk, this is a death trap that shouldn't be (and in normal countries isn't) allowed on the road at all. Just because the US law allows billionaires to kill children doesn't mean we should as well. a sticker is getting off easy.
no excuse for owning a cybertruck.
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No, it’s a fucking sticker. Grow up.
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slaps ‘Biden did this’ sticker on top of it
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That's entering sticker-bombing territory, which might be terrorism, it's got "bombing" in the name.
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Not as political, but how about something like these?
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From what I remember, putting this on a painted surface is vandalism because it can ruin the paint topcoat. Putting it on glass is NOT vandalism because it can be removed without damage.
I'm not sure about stainless steel, because I thought the whole point was that it could be cleaned, so I guess it depends on if they want to admit it's a bad finishing material or not.
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People are getting caught up on semantics vs. ethics in this thread. Is it vandalism? Yes, textbook. Is it okay? Also yes, fuck these people for bankrolling his coup.
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So basically... Wrong:Yes, Justified: Also yes
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This is morally okay and ethical thing to do.
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Well, you do have the consider the owner's safety; when they peel it off, the whole damn thing might explode into a ball of fire. Still on the whole, this seems morally positive only providing a small dangers to non-tesla cars around it.
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Legality and morality are distinctly independent concepts.
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Should laws follow morality?
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Ideally, yes.
In capitalism…not even in the same universe
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Morality is subjective. But it's an interesting question. It sounds like the obvious answer should be yes, but who decides what is moral?
Even if we go by what the majority thinks, does that automatically make it moral? There was a time when the moral thing was to burn witches at the stake. We'd call that immoral today.
This feels like a can of worms.
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To be honest, Musk does indeed suck nazi cock.
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And to be fair, the tweet is 100% accurate: only pathetic losers buy a Swasticar.
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Is he really that flexible?
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Never said he did a good job. Cue the Benny hill tune...
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Maybe it's a factory optional extra someone chose.
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Would be vandalism if it wasn't true
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Yeah this person is just labelling things accurately, nothing to see here
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yeah the sticker's value is ruined now that the back is covered in shit
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A mango-american once said:
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The Fanta Fascist
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The Fantastic Fart
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So, if Thomas Crooks had actually hit the target, he wouldn't have violated any law. Gotcha
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Responsible advertising I'd say
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Yeah, they are.
Pathetic for owning a dumpster that pretends to be a truck.
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People are pathetic
Yeah, those cybertruck drivers are pretty lame.
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Yes, but vandalism is awesome.
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Is this vandalism?
It sure is! Keep up the awesome work - maybe set a couple of the fuckers on fire while you're out there.
The legal status of what you're doing to Nazi's shit can go fuck right off. Deface or destroy it as often as you can get away with.
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Why bother. Theyll just catch on fire on their own.
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some lack the courage to self-immolate, so by assisting the creature to reach its peak state, you are making the entire world better. a real twofer!
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Guerrilla brand reinforcement.
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I have a 6 year old Tesla. I wouldn't be mad if that was done to me.
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Where can i buy this? Exactly what I'm looking for, but its hard to search for lol
Edit: on second thought this would probably cause more harm than good, to folks who might see the flag and feel unsafe. I'll have to come up with something better
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that's the swasticar sold by Elmo at your local Tesla dealership
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Water balloons filled with bleach maybe if you are feeling hardcore. Bleach will stain stainless steel
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Yes and I hope the owner does bother to remove the sticker.
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IANAL. So to answer the question "Is this vandalism" it depends. If it's a sticker that takes considerable effort to remove then yes. But static cling or magnets are not. Hope this helps
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I hope that removing it is next to impossible because it breaks down into tiny little wispy shreds, I also hope the adhesive strips the stainless clear coat.
I really hope that everybody who bought one of those cars has the worst possible experience someone can have with the vehicle. It seems designed to give them that and I for one look forward to it. I hope the price on them drops so low that they're barely worth the price of a battery... I wouldn't mind owning one of them to repurpose as a power wall.
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You are looking for "eggshell" stickers...purposefully made for vandalism
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Are there stickers that have hydrochloric acid in the adhesive?
Asking for a friend
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I wouldn't even trust it for that tbh
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Yeah, the guy who drives it
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People are cool
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This is 2025’s “I did that” and I’m here for it
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Yes but only because that piece of shit truck is so badly designed a sticker will ruin the finish
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The finish is already ruined because it's part of a Swasticar.
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The truck is ruining the sticker, you mean.
“Truck” being applied rather liberally to what basically amounts to a portable biohazard dump.-
Yes, of the two the sticker is far worse off for being stuck to something so dumb
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Naw I'm sure the door would fall off if you tried to take it off or something
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Finish? I think you mean the layer of oxidized skin over the "stainless" steel?
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It will make the
rustpatina come in unevenly
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Damn, where do I get some of those? I also want those obnoxious “Trump did that!” stickers for the gas pumps and eggs, like they did with Biden
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Those stickers never made sense but if you find out where to get some let me know. I want to stick them.
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Sometimes petty revenge can be cathartic. And maybe, just maybe, it might make some MAGA rube think about the president's role in government enough to snap them out of whatever spell Trump has these people under.
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Nope, just a safety label.
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Is this vandalism?
no
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Yes, and it's cool
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Sure are a lot of people offended by the implications here. 😶 Fuck Elon, fuck Trump, and fuck all the individual Nazis. They deserve infinitely worse than stickers.
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Remember: If you see someone vandalizing a Swasticar... No you didn't.
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I hadn't realised before that it's an anagram of "ELON MUSK TESLA".
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You're only missing two I's, three C's, one Z, one K and have two L's, two E's, one T, one M, and one S left over.
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Yes, it's vandalism, but it's hilarious at the same time.
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It's only vandalism if they used superglue to permanently glue the sticker on there. Not trying to give anyone ideas or anything.
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Where might one procure such an adornment?
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Imagine the shipping label, or the billing line.
"Nazi cock sticker"
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Where can I get that sticker? I need to cover some Biden ones at the gas station
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Carve it into the bumper next time like Aldo from Inglorious Bastards
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What's wrong about vandalism? No, I am serious, people use vandalism as a proxy to name every action they do not like. Fuck this. Vandalism for me is equal as destruction of property. Is sticker a destruction? No. Is paint on sculpture of long dead bastard a vandalism? Still no.
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No me it's the effort required to return something to its original state so i disagree with you on the paint on a statue.
Also a sticker could be vandalism if it's one of those fuckers they use for cheap price tags that Never really come off. If it peels off easily in one go than no I wouldn't call it vandalism.
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A few years ago I watched this fun "Stop a Douchebag" channel on YT. They put huge stickers on cars that parked anywhere or drove where they shouldn't. Real hardcore. Not backing down from real gangsters, gov officials sometimes guns. And plenty of travels on the hood. Their pizza sized stickers were hell to remove. They also got slapped with lawsuits but it didn't stick ;( They left no trace once removed so they were aquited.
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So the police vandalize every single car that's broken down on the side of the highway?
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This, except yes. Very obviously yes. Your feelings are making you stupid.
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Hahaha
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it's not vandalism. it's a free upgrade 😂
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with "pathetic" he probably means the driver and the dude on the sticker, right?
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I would just assume the owner did it, which is a pretty safe bet, so that's not vandalism.
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Maybe it's a self acknowledgement like every other bumper sticker.
Driver just wants some Nazi cock
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It's implied if you drive a Tesla, but some people don't have time for subtlety.
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did it for the likes and karma!
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America is dead because truly awful people spent 100 thousand dollars on these junk vehicles to help finance its demise, and are still proudly driving it for all to see while feeling superior to everyone else. It is not vandalism, it is free speech.
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They started selling the cybertruck in 2019. Things were an order of magnitude less crazy in the US back then.
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Vandalism or resistance?
Depends on the point of view.-
Vandalism.
Would you like to explain to the dealership that gave me a shitty old loaner Tesla why you decided to vandalize their property and make me have to deal with it through my insurance?
Don’t vandalize other people’s shit. You don’t know what their situation is. Golden rule, motherfucker.
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Would you like to explain to the dealership that gave me a shitty old loaner Tesla why you decided to vandalize
Surely you realize that analogy is flawed? That's not an old loaner—even if it is shitty—it's an eighty-thousand dollar and higher, highly controversial, highly marketed, nearly experimental vehicle. No reasonable person is chasing after poor sods with old loaners to vandalize.
Don’t vandalize other people’s shit. You don’t know what their situation is. Golden rule, motherfucker.
Since we're being nice about it, how about don't support nazis. Golden rule, dipshit.
...I don't think you're a dipshit, but I do think "vandalism or not" is irrelevant, here. Property isn't sacred, and even if it were, vandalizing nazi symbols would be far from the worst sin to commit.
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Would you like to explain to the dealership that gave me a shitty old loaner Tesla why you decided to vandalize their property and make me have to deal with it through my insurance?
I think the reason most people vandalize secretly is so that they wont have to explain themselves at all. Generally speaking, they hope the vandalism speaks for them and don't particularly give a fuck if it dings some jerk's insurance. As for the golden rule, I think you've got that confused too: Most people who vandalize in this way are hoping to inspire others to do the same, so golden rule very much in play.
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The rich have yet again convinced the working class to attack each other
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I know someone that buys a swasticar is still poor compared to the centibillionaires, but I can't help but think that if you can afford to burn more than 100k on a luxury vehicle, you're not exactly "with" the working class.
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I draw a distinction between "rich" working professionals and such that can afford a 85K car, and giga rich.
Perhaps I diverge with Lemmy on this, but its OK to get rich. Being Elon Musk rich is not okay.
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This is not far off from the logic of acting like a cop is part of the working class. This isn't "working class attacking each other". This is literally a sticker with the richest dude on the world on it. This is shaming what is most likely some petty bourgeoisie. Or someone that thinks their class interest align with them.
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Nobody working class is driving a Cybertruck.
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I met a guy that rented one for his birthday 🤭
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I get your point but is someone who owns a $100k+ truck really in the working class?
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Others pointed this out but I wanted to put numbers on it for fun. Working class means you work for a living, doing some form of labor rather than being able to live and earn just off of your capital. However, someone could then try and argue that Musk for example "works" as CEO, so we need numbers.
The average cost of living in the US is apparently $61334.
The average return of investment in the stock market is roughly 10%.
That makes this part easy: you need roughly $613,340 in investments to no longer be working class in my book.
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It's very frustrating to me. I bought a used Model 3 back in 2019 for like 35k. I'm not rich.
I know a guy who bought a Cybertruck. He makes around $140k a year which is better than most but still nowhere near what I would call "rich." Was it a stupid decision? Yeah. Does he support Trump or Musk personally? No. He saw the launch announcement, put in a reservation years ago, and went ahead with it when he got his chance because he was hyped about it for his own personal aesthetic reasons. That people think he's somehow to blame for Musk is stupid. That someone might damage his car, costing repairs he can't really afford because he spent it all on a stupid large car loan, but forcing him to pay Musk even more to get it repaired is so amazingly dumb that I can't actually comprehend the thought process.
Some people with Cybertrucks are probably a part of the problem. Some are just people who got hyped. But in this thread are people who unironically claim that buying a Cybertruck is supporting a Nazi while they themselves pay for Amazon Prime, use Gmail, own an Oculus, eat Nestle products, and buy gas at Exxon.
It just feels weird that this car is the line people draw. I guess because it's expensive, but when you look at how much some of those big luxury trucks cost you've almost certainly seen more expensive ones on the road more frequently than you've seen Cybertrucks.
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It just feels weird that this car is the line people draw.
To me the problem is that it's an expensive, oversized, poorly made vehicle designed by a Nazi who even at the time of announcement was expressing some pretty distasteful views.
Other older Tesla's I can give the benefit of the doubt to as they're some of the cheapest and at times most ubiquitous electric vehicles available, but the cyber truck is not cheap and it doesn't predate Elon's obvious slide into being a nazi
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Thank you for having an actually good take on this, I'm blocking most of the people in this thread for their stupidity. My experience with Lemmy seems to improve the more people I block lol
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No, just about acceptable.
While I approve of this message there is an unwritten rule to not mess with someone's vehicle.
Stickers are OK, they are annoying and (hopefully) difficult to remove but when I read about carving or whatever, that's a big no.
That is for cowards.
Have the balls to confront your enemy.-
That sticker probably leaves a permanent mark since there's no clearcoat on the steel. Stickers in general are a scourge on earth, slapping them on other people's property is vandalism.
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Yes. It is a cybertruck. Damaging something cheaply made and very expensive with the most tiny, mundane shit is kind of the point.
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other people’s property
The keyword here is "people". Is someone who chooses to be or support a Nazi still entitled to be considered a "person"?
I vote NO.
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there’s no clearcoat on the steel.
In general cars can take stickers.
If this 'special' vehicle can't well then it suck in that way too.
And there's plenty things more in your face and unnecessary to look at, starting with everything advertising.
Stickers, often a form of art get a pass. They don't bother me in the least.
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That is an accurate form of journalism.
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A Canadian example is people started putting pride flags next to “fuck trudeau” stickers
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Fuck Trudeau 🤬
Fuck Trudeau 😳🏳️🌈
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Yes, it's the best sort of vandalism.
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Nah.
That's called reporting the news because the mainstream media won't.
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