My liberals are convinced that china represents some kind of threat to them. I am baffled and frustrated.
My liberals are convinced that china represents some kind of threat to them. I am baffled and frustrated.
"China stole the f-35 plans!" So? Who care? Like literally who cares? What are they going to do, build air defense systems to counter america's strategic baby murdering capabilities?
"China is going to invade taiwan!" Again, whocares? Why do you give a single fuck about taiwan? And why do you think china is going to invade when y'all constantly talk about how china doesn't have the capacity to invade and taiwan would just blow the chip fabs anyway? And china has it's own mature chip technology? So why do you think they're poised to invade when you ourright say they cannot do that and have no incentive to, they're not producing military gear capable of invasion, and their publicly stated goal of peaceful integration has been consistent with their praxis for, what, fifty goddamn years?
"China is spying on us through tiktok!" One, no they're not, and no credible source believes they are, or even that they could. Two, senior us officials have openly stated they are trying to seize control of tiktok because it exposes kids to information outside of us control. Three, who care? What the fuck is china going to do to harm you? Why are you worried about china enough to talk about it constantly, but you're totally dismissive of five eyes very real and publicly proven surveillance of your lives, which five eyes does use to cause you real material harm?
How can people this fucking smart be this fucking stupid when the state department sprinkles a little racism on their propaganda? Oh, and also, i was told today that wikipedia says china is doing uighurcide and they don't need to read the un report because they skimmed it and then they start moving the goalposts from genocide to human rights vioations and bitching about prison labor which, again, you fuckers never talk about the us prison slave system that actually effects your life and that you could actually do something about? Fuck's sake this shit is so goddamn frustrating. These people are smart as hell but as soon as they see an epicathic fold they turn in to the fucking john birch society.
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I don't follow these things very closely, but I can't see China invading Taiwan anytime soon, it's not in China's interest, and it would still be super costly. It's better to play the waiting game and let a political and economic solution manifest itself.
I suspect there will eventually be a time where Taiwan sees that it's coupled to falling stars in the West and seek peaceful reunification.
Given that there's been a harsh lesson of the dangers of outsourcing, it's unlikely they'll fortify the Taiwanese economy with another huge, critical industry any time soon.
Once the re-onshoring has reached a sufficient level that the West no longer NEEDS TSMC plants, the strategic value for the island plummets. The current security guarantees are pretty damn expensive, especially considering that the leading countries backing them have some crippling long-term risk factors (failing educational systems in 2025 are hardly the recipe for 10% annualized growth in 2040)
There is no "re-onshoring" of chip fabrication in the US. The TSMC plant in Arizona is a joke.
I suspect there will eventually be a time where Taiwan sees that it’s coupled to falling stars in the West and seek peaceful reunification.
This is Chinese nationalist propaganda and it doesn't even make any sense. Even if Taiwan theoretically become as poor as let's say Burkina Faso why would they want another country (the obvious aggressor) to take over? Has that ever happened in the history of humans?
another country
Taiwan IS China, specifically the government of Taiwan is called the "Republic of China", a capitalist government that claims sovereignty over the whole of China (including a bunch of stuff outside its current borders, incidentally) but fled into exile on the island of Taipei, a Chinese province for hundreds of years, because they lost to the communists in the Chinese civil war seventy five years ago.
There, now you know the actual historical origins of "Taiwan", as you apparently did not before.
Well, the DPP has been advocating for more than a decade that Taiwan has nothing to do with China, or Chinese culture, not historically, not now. Even when the KMT were in power for decades, due to its own history of "fighting" against the CPC, they implemted full-on propaganda about how crappy Mainland China was, how horrific was the communist system there, how oppressive, how Mainlanders hate them and always only want to oppress the Taiwanese, etc. Etc.
Honestly the Taiwanese people are pretty innocent folks mostly, not very interested in political nuances, but after all these decades of propaganda from every single party,,, separatism is basically politically correctness there now. The constitution, along with the "ROC" name, alas, might as well just be a piece of paper
Taiwan has nothing to do with China, or Chinese culture, not historically, not now.
That is some AAA grade revisionism holy shit.
why would they want another country (the obvious aggressor) to take over
I don't think they meant reuniting with the US...
I live in Taiwan and to quickly summarize, they will never invade. It's literally a "face" thing for them. Historically, China gave 0 shits about Taiwan until the KMT losers started to claim it when they lost their war. It's funny seeing Chinese nationalists get pissed off over Lai's milquetoast statements. I would strongly prefer China adopt Russia's rhetoric style which is more FACT BASED. Call Taiwan out for funding ASPI. Call the US out for forcing Taiwan to pay protection money by buying useless arms.