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What a thread. There are some serious pockets of the dem mindset in there.
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It's been eight fucking years the total number of votes doesn't fucking matter. But the old chestnut is unkillable.
Yeah, she was a horrible candidate.
And yet--more people voted for her than the other guy. In any sane system that'd be a win.
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"But it would be sweet..." but, oh, - the GOP are the boogiemen! Yeesh.
Same could be said of this election tbh. Dems don't tell us anything except 'we're not trump....isn't that enough?' it's not enough anymore.
I only vote blue but it would be sweet to see someone do something about the cost of living… or food prices… or the housing market… or insurance… or healthcare. I know it isn’t as simple as just doing something about it. Our representation is so inefficient, largely due to the total fucking morons running the right.
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Trump is the boogieman.
She is wrong, though. People mad about this election are not egocentric. You can vote for Biden and understand Trump is awful while still loathing this broken system and the awful choices the establishment gives us. Hillary wants us to just shut up and fall in line
shut up and fall in line
The alternative is a man who literally said he's going to be a dictator - [I'm not going to be a dictator] "other than day one", [I won't abuse my power] "except for day one".
Vote for the person with the chance of winning who doesn't say he's going to be a dictator, and after you're done with that work on fixing the "broken system" and finding people who aren't "awful choices the establishment gives us".
This "I'm-too-pure-for-anything-but-perfection" mindset is going to get a dictator elected.
And yet--more people voted for her than the other guy. In any sane system that'd be a win.
I mean, I agree with this sentiment. But constantly coming back to the Democrats, when they refuse to do so much as implement DC Statehood because its just too hard!!! is fucking pathetic.
Dems don't want a sane system.
It is pretty wild that Republicans have only won the popular vote in one (1) election in the past 35 years. Democracy btw
The nature of the Electoral College by way of the US Senate. This is quite literally as intended. America is a coalition of states that only really started functioning as a cohesive single unit in the wake of the Great Depression.
The fact that a handful of rural fiefdoms still command as much power as they do in the national congress is a large part of what keeps the country gelled together. If Floridians and Idahoians weren't hooked up to the Federal Cash Transfer pipeline, I suspect we'd see a lot more open reactionary insurrections as Californication of the national legislature moved the country's social policy away from its reactionary roots.
Rember in 2000 when everybody came out and voted to overcome that disadvantage in the voting system and then dems just said aww shucks and handed the presidency to republicans anyway.
I've seen what happens when everybody falls in line and votes, you're still too chickenshit to stand for or oppose anything meaningful.
"Puck up that cracked vase and smash it on the ground, once you've done that you can worry about fixing the crack."
Do they actually not understand that telling people who think the system is broken to shut up and participate in the system is a bad strategy or do they genuinely just not give a shit.