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I am not okay with sacrificing people to stand on pride
You can tell yourself that all you like but we can all see that plainly isn't true
Yeah dude. And not voting is doing a world of difference. Basically won the revolution already.
Your insulting me for saying i cannot stand on my pride and tell others to sacrifice when I know I will not be the one to suffer. I don't have a choice in the genocide. Voting Biden, voting trump, voting none ultimately changes nothing because we both are small cogs in the machine. We are still comrades, even if you would rather insult me over it.
Yeah dude voting for the less bad option has done a world of difference. I can feel the harm being reduced already by way of cops getting more money to beat the shit out of me and my friends. The harm feels soooooo reduced after we gave up any pretense of fighting COVID. The harm is just super duper reduced now that roe v. Wade has been overturned. Things have most certainly not gotten worse. Harm reduction is when you signal that genocide is cool and good.
I get your anger. I do not want to argue about it anymore. I got too emotional about this and need to log off and cool it. But I understand your anger and I share it. Im sorry if I implied some kinda moral superiority (bit more than imply) for my reasoning for voting. Ultimately voting does nothing and we both know it. I just cannot get past the reasoning I stated to not vote, but it is my own problem and I shouldn't of put that on anyone else.
We are still comrades, thank you for trying to convince me, I appreciate your view.
You do not get my anger nor do you share it. If you did you would respect the fact that you are not my comrade and you would not insist on calling me that, despite my repeated explanations for why you are not.
You're a painfully obvious little cretin attempting poor rhetorical trick after poor rhetorical trick, repeatedly evading the dozens of people patiently explaining to you why your arguments belies a fundamental rot in your being, instead glamming on to tone or rudeness, since that is the only thing you can cling to in order to avoid introspection.This discussion ends here, you are not a comrade. You are completely okay with genocide and persecution, as long as the aesthetics are right. You are a piece of shit and if you keep on this road you will end up like all your fascist buddies
You have the ability to change for the better, but I do not believe you will ever utilise it, having seen how you've behaved here, what your beliefs are and how you choose to discuss them.
Brother, your really gonna post that at me cause we have a difference in opinion over voting? Your going to accuse me of supporting genocide as long as I can feel good about it? Your going to purity test me so hard you actually flip me into a fascist deserving death?
Jesus Christ dude. We are both god damn communists. We are both socialists. You gonna look me in the god damn eye and tell me I deserve death because of beliefs about voting that you don't even fucking care about? That's actually cold. I'm a human being dude. An actual person on the other side of this phone trying to be genuine with you and everyone else here in this moment and your acting like a monster for what? Because I said we were more alike than not? Because I said we are on the same side? That's fucking insane.
What a fucking shit show. But ya know what. Still comrades. I'll keep calling us that even if you won't. I hope you can calm down and see me as a friend. I'll be out there with you.
You might attempt to pretend this is a simple disagreement over voting, but as I've explained several times to you already it is because you are supporting genocide, the abolition of abortion rights, war, and so many other things. You might pretend you are a friendly comrade, but your behaviour reveals you.
Brother.
Dude.A comrade would respect my gender.
. We are both god damn communists. We are both socialists.
I grow tired of this, I refer back to the many times I've already explained why you do not share my ideology. As you've admitted yourself, you are voting for a fascist.
You gonna look me in the god damn eye and tell me I deserve death because of beliefs about voting that you don't even fucking care about.
Once again: It matters that you support all the shitty things biden do.
I am telling you that if you stepped into my org spouting all that bullshit, you would not be walking out again.An actual person on the other side of this phone trying to be genuine with you and everyone else here in this moment and your acting like a monster for what.
I've told you for what several times, you simply refuse to engage with it.
Plenty of fascists have tried being "genuine" with me, but the fact that you are nice to me matters little, especially when it is obviously disingenuine.Because I said we were more alike than not? Because I said we are on the same side?
Because you support genocide and so many other things. Because you make demands but do not respect them. Because you're very obviously a cretin of a debatebro. Because you do not listen, but insist to continue this farce, because you are presented with opportunities for self betterment, but chose not to take them. Because you are, no matter your words, standing on the same side as fascist genociders.
I'll keep calling us that even if you won't. I hope you can calm down and see me as a friend.
I am very calm. I had hoped the aggressive reaction of someone you considers a friend and a comrade might have encouraged introspection. The fact that it doesn't once again reveals you to be a slimy little liar. You do not consider us comrades or friends, if you did, you would take the words to heart and reconsider.
The fact that you wish us to be comrades do not make us so. Feel free to fool yourself into believing it, that will only make you so much easier to treat
Apologies for not seeing the pronouns. I'm not used to checking them yet. Not used to being somewhere they are so easily presented. Definitely something to work on.
My problem at this point is that I see this as a small issue and you are presenting it as one worthy of actual fascisism. I find your position extremely accusational and unreasonable.
You say I support fascism. I give my personal stance on why I feel I cannot abstain from voting due to the reasons I laid out and you insult me like Im wearing an SS uniform. I cannot in any fucking way see that as anything other but unreasonable anger with no actual belief behind it because that's fucking insane.
Do you really believe that? Are you genuinely really actually telling me that it's so important that I don't vote, that if you knew me and we were friends you would be taking a baseball bat to me over it? You would boot me from your org and kick my ass on the way out?
If so, I don't fucking understand. Spent all this time talking about how voting is pointless , both candidates are the same, voting changes nothing and turn around and say but if you put a name down in the hopes maybe less people would get hurt that you are a card carrying Nazi scumbag.
Your right, I don't understand you. I don't understand why you continue threatening and talking about physical violence you wish you could enact on me. I do not consider it a way to encourage me to see your point. I ain't a fucking Nazi. I ain't a fucking fascist. You fucking know I ain't and trying to gaslight me into thinking I am some kinda monster is just fucking mean. It's manipulative. It's disrespectful. It's angry bad vibe bullshit for what. You convince me not to do the thing that doesn't matter? Cool. Glad I lost sleep over this.
Maybe instead of acting aggressively in the hopes my fear of not fitting in, you talk to me like a god damn human being. Now I'm all emotional, insomniac, and just generally pissed off and it's gonna continue. Mental state ruined. Even saying all this is just more fuel to your fire.
Whatever. If that's your bar, that's your bar. If you don't want to be nice, I am not dependent on you being so. After all that I'm still going to call you comrade, because I ain't gonna let some petty bullshit discussion make me forget my solidarity.
Not reading all of that. After first paragraph it's obvious you're retreading the same tired arguments.
If you were sorry, if you considered me a comrade, then you would actually have listened and not tried once again to pull the shit you're pulling.
Fuck you.Holy shit, it's worse than I thought. I didn't think they would give a half-hearted corporate apology followed by several paragraphs of how sad 😩 you made them you meanie! How dare you upset them, the Main Character of the internet?
You'd think they'd consider why you keep saying that they're saying things that a fascist would say, and why you'd aggressively kick them out of any org you are a part of, but nope. You're just being mean.
They just don't seem to get that we aren't just being "mean people on the internet" but are being harsh and rude because we do not think their behaviour is in any way acceptable. This person wants to be friends, but doesn't seem to understand that if your friends tell you to stop being such a shitty person before you get bashed or killed, you should take that as a wake-up call and stop being so shitty.
I think I have to step away for some time too, it's not good to tap into that threatening tone for so long. I'll read it tomorrow maybe.
It's funny to me though how it always ends up at "I might be wrong, but YOU HURT MY FEELINGS!!!" as if harsh words arent the least they deserve.
It's always so funny how they belittle people they disagree with. "Hey now I'm a real human being you're being mean to" as if I don't know that. Real respectful of them.
Spent all this time talking about how voting is pointless , both candidates are the same, voting changes nothing
You stated above that you would still vote blue for the sake of your LGBTQ+ friends.
Does voting affect the well being of these peoples or does it change nothing? Make up your mind. It's either 1 or the other, you can't have it both ways.