what are they bombing yemen for?

The United States government just sold over 200 people, without trial, into slavery in El Salvador. And the US explicitly allows slavery as part of its own prison system. The US has a large number of legal slaves.

I don't think people understand just how fucking MASSIVE that bullshit is. Any credibility that the US had in human rights is long gone.
What turn is doing is what the original filibusters did prior to the civil war. Basically considering chattel slavery such an important part of their 'liberty' ideal that they wanted to spread it to places where slavery had been abolished. Like the carribbean and Central America.
Yes, and how does that justify anything? I don't understand this logic at all, the US being bad doesn't make the Houthi slavers good. Slavery is wrong regardless of who does it.
- It doesn't justify anything. What it does do is point out the absurdity of arguing that the Huthis deserved to be bombed due to slavery. If they deserve to be bombed, so do we.

They overthrew Gaddafi when he was the only thing preventing slavery from returning, and the allies of the West now have open slave markets in Libya.

Non sequitur.
- The point: they do not give a fuck about slavery. They are in support of it.
  
  I did not say anything about who care about what. My point what that all these professed leftists siding with slavers is bullshit.
  
  "siding with slavers" is supporting people not getting bombed in this instance.
  you people are bloodthirsty maniacs who will use the flimsiest of claims to justify your thirst for human suffering.
  
  "They attacked us" is flimsy?

Houthis did not reinstate slavery. The "legitimate" Yemeni government that the Houthis are rebelling against reinstituted slavery

Incorrect. While the ousted government often overlooked slavery due to corruption, the Houthis have expanded as part of their interpretation of the Quran, one shared by other nutbags like Boko Haram and Daesh.
https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/yemen/
- I'm sure the pro-genocide us state department wouldn't lie
  
  Whereas the pro-genocide Houthis are totally beyond reproach.
  
  Why do you assume that the US gov is more trustworthy than the Houthis? After all the horrible shit the US gov has done what will it take for you to stop believing it when it tells you that it's the good guy and the people it's fighting are the bad guys.
  
  First of all, the State Department document is just one of a variety of reports detailing the Houthi reintroduction of slavery.
  Second of all, the fact you can't actually attack the contents of the report and solely argue I shouldn't believe it because you, personally, hate America undermines your argument.
  Third, rape and slavery are not pasttimes in America, as they are in Houthi controlled Yemen.
  
  America literally has penal slavery as legal within our constitution.
  
  What about what about what about. One thing does not negate the other.
  
  sick fuck
  
  Wow. What a great response.
  
  It's not because I personally hate America, the US has been helping israel commit a genocide for over a year, apparently that isn't enough for you to question their statements but it is more than enough for me
  
  Except you're not "questioning" them.
  You are declaring they are wrong, for no particular reason other than their source. You aren't doing anything to impeach the evidence they produce, you are refusing to even look at it. You are siding with the terrorists because they hate the same people you do.
  
  The US government has committed far more acts of terror than the houthis
  You are siding with the terrorists
- From the US State Department report:
  Media reports referencing muhamasheen activists noted that while social castes and slavery were abolished in the 1960s, tribal justice systems reinforced historical patterns of discrimination. The most recent estimated number of victims of modern slavery in country remained the 2018 report by Walk Free, an NGO focused on ending modern slavery. Walk Free estimated there were 85,000 victims of modern slavery in the country, or 3.1 percent of the population, but that due to the impossibility of conducting surveys under conflict, data likely underestimated the problem. This broad category included forced labor and debt bondage, human trafficking, and forced and early marriage.
  This is the Walk Free report mentioned, it's referencing modern-day slavery and how vulnerable the population of Yemen is, the main being political instability. That same article shows Saudi Arabia as having over 4 times per capita more modern day slaves.
  The only other article that mentions Slavery under the Houthis is Al-Awsat which is a state propaganda newspaper working at the behest of the Saudi Royal Family.
  There is no mention of slavery in the 2024 HRW Report Or 2023 Amnesty Report
  The Saudi puppet government that did institute slavery are what the Houthis fought and won against, and continue to face a US-Saudi genocide because of it. It'd certainly help to reduce modern day slavery if the entire population of Yemen wasn't facing a genocide.
  
  US complicity in the Saudi-led genocide in Yemen spans Obama, Trump administrations

They're not threatening global trade, they're fulfilling their obligation under international law to prevent genocide by blocking ships of countries that are aiding genocide.

It's a wonder people on Lemmy don't understand why their politics are unpopular, when they openly support slave holding terrorists attacking civilian ships.
- Preventing genocide is very popular outside of boomers and/or Zionists.
  To be clear, the ICJ has ruled that Israel is committing a genocide, every state is obligated to prevent Israel from doing so.
  
  And yet I will bet you nobody supporting the Houthis will ever win an election.
  No, the ICJ has ruled that it is plausible.
  
  And there it is, Zionist genocide denial
  It's a genocide
  
  Nowhere in there does the ICJ label it genocide.

What lead them to be on position to be able to do such a thing?

Who helped to stabilise the previous gov & infrastructure (hospitals) ... and stopped overnight destabilising the country early pre-covid?

That is a different topic not relevant for the current discission.
its something that would benefit russia so it was either russia or us
I don't know, but I presume the answer is us.
But that doesn't mean it is at all reasonable to just let them shoot at our boats and, I reiterate, REINSTITUTE SLAVERY.
- our boats
  Everyone’s boats
  
  Not everyone's boats, just the ones of countries facilitating genocide, as they are obligated to under international law. They're not touching Chinese boats, Iranian boats, Turkish boats, etc.
  
  They are targeting indiscriminately. You might hear otherwise from their statements, but the reality is they don't seem to have capacity to distinguish
  Edit: this has happened numerous times and there is plenty of evidence. Sorry it's your heroes commiting atrocities
  
  Boats marked with a specific country are not strictly captained, crewed, or even owned by individuals from that country.
  
  They aren't targeting boats based on their flags, nor their captain, nor their crew, nor their ownership, but based on their connection to Israel.

The houthis aren't exactly the best representatives of the movement but still, this issue would be better solved by stopping arms shipments to israel and pushing them to a ceasefire towards a permanent peace. The houthis have shown that they will stop there attacks when the bombs stop dropping on gaza with this last ceasefire.

These strikes don't do shit besides hardening the antagonism against the west in Yemen. Ask Saudi Arabia, you can't take out the houthis with bombs. This is just a way for trump to flex his arms and act like a tough guy.

I do not trust murderous terrorist slavers to keep their word. And even if I did, the mere fact that there are attacking our people is more than justification enough to blow them to Hell.
- Ah yes, the moderate "kill them all" approach
  
  They attacked us. My heart does not bleed.
  
  Hopefully it does soon.
  
  A tankie resorting to violence in immediate reaction to a political disagreement?
  Must be a day ending in "Y."
- That doesn't solve the issue, you blow up one terrorist and five civilians then the brothers/fathers of those five civilians become terrorists. The only thing blowing them up does, besides making the leaders and the people of the u.s. feel tough, is enrich the weapons industry.
  We bombed Afghanistan for more then a decade and the taliban still control Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia bombed the houthis for years and they now control Yemen, Israel has leveled gaza and hamas is still in control.
  YOU CANT BOMB AWAY TERRORISTS.
  
  So you propose we just let ourselves be attacked?
  
  No, I'm proposing that we push our client state Israel to stop bombing gaza so the attacks will stop. That's the only way to stop them from attacking us, because again, bombing them won't stop them, it'll just fuel further conflict.
  Also we arent being attacked, no one in u.s. territory has been harmed, ships in a war zone are being attacked. Are you proposing that we blow the hell out of anyone that killed an american in a war zone? Because Israel has killed American citizens in its war on gaza, so has hamas, should we just carpet bomb the whole area to show we mean business?
  
  First of all, that comparison is bullshit and you know it. The Houthis are purposefully attacking American citizens abroad.
  Second of all, I disagree that destroying their capabilities to attack would accomplish nothing and I have no sympathy for genocidal, rape happy slaver terrorists, so you aren't tugging on my heartstrings by talking about carpet bombings.
  Thirdly, as I mentioned, they're genocidal slaver terrorists. So I do not trust them.
  Fourth, this is why any politician supported by Lemmy is obviously going to fail. You have no conception of what normal people think is acceptable. For example: the average American does not hear about Americans being attacked abroad by terrorists who commit rape en mass, support genocide and have reintroduced slavery and think, "We should give these people what they want."
  
  Explain to me how Israel blowing up a food aid convoy is different then the houthis attacking merchant ships.
  oh but that was an accident, they didn't know the truck with there logo that reported there location to the idf was an aid truck. That's not there stated policy to blow up aid trucks.
  Israel has implemented a full blockade of Gaza since the ceasefire ended. So if an American tried to drive an aid truck across the Gaza border, Israel would blow it up. That's currently just a threat, and they haven't done that, but the houthis haven't attacked a ship since the ceasefire, they only threatened to which is what prompted this strike.
  Are all Yemeni rape happy slavery terrorists? Because these bombings are pretty indiscriminate, a majority of the people are civilians. This latest strike was on an apartment building, not some secret houthi military base. They killed a couple terrorist leaders that will be easily replaced, while killing substantially more civilians.
  the average American does not hear about Americans being attacked abroad by terrorists who commit rape en mass, support genocide and have reintroduced slavery and think "we should give these people what they want"
  All of those descriptors except for the slavery one apply to israel and half of Americans give them unequivocal support.
  This isn't just giving them what they want, the large majority of the world wants a ceasefire in gaza, look at the UN votes. If everyone in the world supports reducing pollution you don't turn that around and say north Korea and the taliban want to reduce pollution, and we can't let them get anything they want so we should pollute more. That's the height of reactionary, oppositional politics that destroys any progress and solidarity.
  
  Israel didn't purposefully attack Americans because they are Americans. It's not much, but it's a difference.
  All of those descriptors except for the slavery one apply to israel and half of Americans give them unequivocal support. And? That doesn't dispute anything I said.
  First of all, the UN would gladly vote Israel out of existence. Second of all, I do not necessarily oppose a ceasefire. My point was that letting the Houthis get away with attacking us is stupid and, more importantly, politically indefensible.
  
  They aren't attacking the ships because they're American, they are attacking any ship that passes through there, it's not like Chinese ships get a pass because they're not arming Israel. They are instituting a blockade, the same as Israel is doing in gaza, if anyone crosses there line, regardless of nationality, they will shoot.
  letting the houthis get away with attacking us is stupid and, more importantly, politically indefensible.
  And bombing an apartment building, when again they haven't attacked us since the ceasefire, is morally indefensible. This wasn't the houthis decapitating and American on video and every major outlet covering it. This was all in response to a threat, the same threat that Israel has for anyone trying to get food in to Gaza. If you asked your average American what have the houthis done lately they'd respond "nothing i know of" and they'd be right. No one was asking for this strike except for the brain dead fox News audience who think everyone in the middle east is a terrorist.
  
  If anything that's worse. And it is not, in fact, part of any international obligation with regards to genocide.
  So, they've attacked us in the past, they've promised to attack us again, they're pretty much the worst people alive and you think leaving them to make good on their threats is a vote winnter?