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“if you’re so inclusive name every lgbt” is real and I can’t believe it

It was a good faith discussion. Not everything you disagree with is “debatefan horeshit”. How many languages can you speak? Have you lived in any other countries? Do you have any kind of exposure to non-english speaking LGBT communities?

ahahahaha my god, thanks for making the next part easy

@Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world, about this

the moderation principles you vehemently disagree with are principles we’ve built our communities on, and you’ve been posting with us long enough to know that.

if the trans community in Ukraine don’t face certain forms of bigotry that trans people do in the west, that’s lovely! where I’m from, trans people are facing a rapidly increasing amount of systemic bigotry and danger, and maintaining a space where they can communicate without fuckheads getting in the way is a top priority.

when I read this:

You don’t know whether trans folk in non-english speaking countries are in 100% alignment with you on this issue.

I will admit I don’t either. But unlike you I do have some exposure to our local LGBT community and to me this comes off as almost orientalist.

I don’t see someone trying to reach a mutual understanding. I see someone who saw an opportunity to shout down a trans poster with a bunch of debatefan horseshit and took it, and I don’t think I want that kind of person on our instance. I don’t care that this was posted elsewhere — this is about who you are.

what I’d like to see is that you can exist as a positive part of an explicitly trans-friendly community. I can’t ask your local LGBT community about it, and in any case we’re talking about online communities here — so show me you can positively contribute to an online trans community. that should be easy enough, since you’ve got some pretty heavy opinions regarding how online trans-inclusive communities should be run.

so the nix devenv CLI tool that was gaining popularity around the time I left nix is now doing extremely invasive telemetry and quietly implemented a feature that exfiltrates your entire repo and all related files to their servers to feed into an LLM. if you’d like a reminder of the extreme bad faith the corporate assholes who own nixpkgs operate under, someone tried to add DO_NOT_TRACK to Nix’s wrapped version of devenv, and the devenv lead maintainer used their elevated privileges on the nixpkgs repo to revert that change instantly without following any existing processes or asking for the community’s consensus.

I ranted some time ago about how all these shit commercial tools are just ways to capture and monetize large parts of the nix ecosystem, and the bill has finally come due. lixpkgs can’t happen soon enough (and the nix infra people seem to agree — they’ve been using lix for a while now, cause the regular evaluator is too unstable for large-scale use)

a very old concept with useful applications dating back in the 80s.

wait a fucking minute

you came here to lecture us and you think algorithms from the field of AI only started seeing serious use in the 80s? the Mark I Perceptron was built in 1958

(I admittedly didn’t know about the machine before today, but I know more than enough about AI to know perceptrons as software are old as hell)

why do all these papers have their own microsites, dedicated domain names (in Anguilla no less!), and shitty graphics? I can’t think of another branch of research that consistently does this shit. it’s almost like it’s all marketing fluff or something!

I feel the same way. I program in rust cause I like it, and the feeling of actually liking writing systems code was refreshing coming from C and especially C++. rust is a language I find beautiful — but I won’t for long if its excellent diagnostics and tooling all get deprecated in favor of an LLM. I can’t imagine what pivoting to AI would do to the language’s roadmap.

wow what utter horseshit

AI, as I’m sure you are all aware, is a very old concept with useful applications dating back in the 80s.

the first AI winter happened because those fuckers couldn’t stop grifting academic funds by promising shit that didn’t work. we know the history of the field better than you do. not that you had a point other than wanting to reply guy about a name we didn’t adopt (cause we’re not OpenAI) for a technology all of us strongly dislike.

fucking pointless shit

holy shit that’s perfect

Niko Matsakis wrote a post about how the fucking rust compiler toolchain should include an LLM to explain error messages because teaching the semantics of a language is too hard and that pissed me off so much that instead of linking that piece of shit directly I’m posting this excellent sneer from Anatol Ulrich that’s also much shorter than Niko’s extended attempt to beg for a promotion at Amazon

e: mastodon thread

my related guess is primarily marketing surveillance and secondarily all other types of surveillance. notably Venmo no longer lets you put “hookers and blow” as a transaction note, because it was the default response from most people who didn’t really want to do a social transaction but had to use Venmo cause it’s all their recipient had. Venmo’s social features are all designed to make you leak as much data to Venmo as possible so it can be monetized or otherwise capitalized upon, and that’s about par for the course for how a thielverse paypal mafia offshoot operates. this is surveillance capitalism with a smiley face.

it’s turning out the most successful thing about deepseek was whatever they did to trick the worst fossbro reply guys you’ve ever met into going to bat for them

also, holy fuck their post history is essentially nothing but unsubtle dogwhistles and pro-AI garbage

how about you go fuck yourself

The only thing LLMs typically are bad at

is everything. including summarizing research since it’s pretty fucking obvious you didn’t read shit. now fuck off

somehow it got even worse

Google appears to have faked AI output in a commercial set to run during the Super Bowl. The ad shows a business owner using Gemini to write a website description, but the text portrayed as generated by AI has been available on the business’s website since at least August 2020

also they doubled down on the bad stat

The ad originally had Gemini present copy stating that Gouda accounts for “50 to 60 percent of the world’s cheese consumption” — which is not true. Google later edited the commercial to take out the stat, while the business owner also removed it from their website.

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But Google maintained that the website description was written by Gemini all along. In addition to showing Gemini “generate” the description in the commercial, Google Cloud apps president Jerry Dischler said on X that the Gouda stat was “not a hallucination,” adding that “Gemini is grounded in the Web.”

also also they later doubled down on lying that Gemini wrote the whole page? it’s… really embarrassing that Google’s marketing team doesn’t know about web archives

standard “fuck off programming.dev” ban with a side of who the fuck cares. deepseek isn’t the good guys, you weird fucks don’t have to go to a nitpick war defending them, there’s no good guys in LLMs and generative AI. all these people are grifters, all of them are gaming the benchmarks they designed to be gamed, nobody’s getting good results out of this fucking mediocre technology.

this is utterly pointless and you’ve taken up way too much space in the thread already

It sounds to me like you have a very clear bias, and you don’t care at all about whether or not what they said is actually true or not, as long as the headlines about AI are negative

oh no, anti-AI bias in TechTakes? unthinkable

also:

So in that thinking, Wikipedia is not open source, if the editor used a proprietary browser?

fucking no! how in fuck do you manage to misunderstand LLMs so much that you think the weights not being reproducible is at all comparable to… editing Wikipedia from a proprietary browser???? this shit isn’t even remotely exotic from an open source standpoint — it’s a binary blob loaded by an open source framework, like how binary blob modules taint the Linux kernel (you glided right past this reference when our other poster made it, weird that) or how loading a proprietary ROM in an open source emulator doesn’t make the ROM open source. the weights being permissively licensed doesn’t make them open source (or really make any sense at all) if the source literally isn’t available.

my fucking god how have you missed the point this hard. fuck off

fuck off promptfan