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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_husbandry#Environmental_impact Plenty of sources are referenced in this section
this is a gish gallop. which study are you citing? the 22 year old study (reference number 78)? which of the dozens of references did you actually read?
you can read the citations on that study and see that LCA studies cannot be combined
I showed my reasoning, and the evidence is in the citations of the study we are discussing, and their citations
there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but that doesn’t mean that animal agriculture is okay
of course not. but it is probably ok, regardless of whether there is ethical consumption under capitalism
part of the advantage of not eating animals is that it takes less plants to eat just plants, then it does to eat animals - since you have to feed those animals too
animals graze, and what crops they are fed are often crop-seconds or parts of plants that people can't (or won't) eat.
but anywhere not in the us risks being liberated by the Pentagon or cia
personally I like to spread around the Star wars analogy that they use but I always couch it by letting people know that their terfs.
if you want to lose an argument about the validity of utilitarian ethics, I'll be happy to help you. if you want to keep throwing out red herrings, and you can stop making it personal, that's fine too
never ascribed you any motivations
anyone can read that you did
Why should I care what "professional philosophers" do?
they're the experts on ethics and logic, both of which you seem to think you have a firm grasp on. I'm pointing out that you are probably mistaken.
whenever you realize being wrong about something you just switch to another topic.
I'm following your lead. if you want to stick with your assertions about pleasure and suffering I'll be glad to eviscerate utilitarianism for you.
I can be sovereign without rights
It doesn't matter here at all what Kant said since most people don't agree with him on that.
actually most professional philosophers are deontologists. and they eat meat and eggs and dairy.
Your arguments lack any logic
you're wrong, and making a statement like this doesn't make it true
you're wrong about my motivations, and your personal values are not universal.
it's a millennialism.
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