mycodesucks @ mycodesucks @lemmy.world

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I am aware of Dr. King's quote, and I am aware that the Democrats are not some kind of paragon of progressive ideals, and I fully agree with you that they are far, FAR from ideal, and in fact are fundamentally flawed. But they ARE, as flawed as they are, the only bulwark against something far worse. If we don't agree on that, we do not agree on necessary priors, and we have nothing more to convince each other of.

Look, I've already voted, and I don't hold any position of power to make any more decisions, and there's nothing productive to continuing this. My temper is my Achilles heel, and nobody has anything to gain. I've heard the arguments from the "Democrats are genociders", and I will never be convinced that the best way to protect a group of people is let their fate be decided by someone who has explicitly made clear his desire to wipe them out, and I will never not think that people in that camp are insane. They are more than welcome to go take their magical thinking to someone who will listen.

Bad call.

When you're trying to prove to people how useful and important illegal immigrants are to the US, don't also give them worst possible example.

No, really. Q says there's a super special session of the real Congress that happens on February 7th with jfk jr presiding to choose the real president, but it only happens if you don't vote. Trust me, bro.

No, you know what.. I really don't want to continue this conversation. Your mind is made up, you do what you feel is right. God bless, I have nothing more to say.

Acknowledging that in a world of 10 billion people, groups do not always have the same overlapping interests or that the best course of action for the most people does not always correspond with the best course of action for one group in particular does NOT equate to pitting groups against each other. That is a childish oversimplification that borders on anime protagonist morality, and unfortunately, the real world doesn't have writers who ensure that there are perfect solutions to be found if everyone involved is just stubborn enough.

If you don't support her, even if you think it's somehow good for Palestinians for her to lose, which it isn't, you are comfortably throwing minorities, LGBTQ, and progressives in every country around the world into the meat grinder to prove your point. Sacrificing and doing ANYTHING to help one particular group, the consequences for everyone else be damned, isn't really all that different from the Zionists they purport to be against.

Nor should they. Nobody should shut up about the genocide of Gaza. They SHOULD shut up about the stupid idea that not voting for Harris is any kind of way to help that situation.

Not that I'm not glad, but this kind of endorsement needs time to permeate, and could've shut up a large chunk of disingenuous contrarians a MONTH ago.

She's right about one thing...

That $17000 dollars is gone and not coming back.

Everything.

The details of who you vote for are another discussion. I'm simply saying voting is the only thing you can do that is guaranteed to contribute to the direction the government goes in, no matter how small. All other activity is important, but not guaranteed to result in anything.

It IS the only one that can't be twisted by media interpretation, demonized and attacked with military and police, or straight up ignored.

Of course. If they don't the communists win.

Bernie Madoff took money from a LOT of rich people - both directly and indirectly.

Even if he doesn't stop it now, he’s not going to see prison or pay a dime…

The only way to actually be punished as a rich person is to endanger the position of other rich people.

It's the unforgivable sin.

The absolute most salient proof of the inadequacy of market capitalism is that when the mobile market consolidated, THESE are the two choices we wound up with. Talk about a giant douche and a turd sandwich...

The education system most likely didn't fail Trump voters as much as these are the stupid a**holes in your school who thought they knew better than everyone else and they didn't need to internalize anything. The school systems did fail US by letting them graduate though.