@superkret I filled in some missing values based on correct values found in city code.

@superkret No one was suggesting that.

@DemonHusky @pleaseclap @bloomingtonin Ah, so the correct speed limit needed to be lowered in OSM?

@pleaseclap @DemonHusky @bloomingtonin Yes. Many routing services, including Google Maps, use OpenStreetMap data to some degree. The more accurate the data is, in general the better the algorithms can work.

If you know of times where you think you haven’t been given the best bike directions, the issue might be solved by updating something in OpenStreetMap. Which like Wikipedia, anyone can edit and it’s not to hard to get started.

@benfulton @bloomingtonin The algorithms don’t know about the debris in the bike lane nor have I heard of carbon monoxide being factored in, BUT the Pointz app allows reporting road hazards and road stress/comfort. But they have few users.

Both Strava and Ride With GPS factor in the routes actually take, so there are options for algorithms that look beyond what’s in OSM data.

@pleaseclap @DemonHusky @bloomingtonin In context, the rest of the post says that exceptions are published in city code and provides an example link to the table in our code.

I’m suggesting to use real speed limits from city code. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

@pleaseclap @DemonHusky @bloomingtonin Misrepresentating? I found streets where the maxspeed value was missing and added the correct values based on city code.

@pleaseclap @DemonHusky @bloomingtonin I’ve looked at the code. My servers have bike routing coverage for most of the US and EU with the OpenTripPlanner and Valhalla engines. Occasionally we find edge cases that don’t route optimally and look into patches.

Lots of roads don’t have max speeds in OpenStreetMap which they both use, so other signals are essential.

@pleaseclap @DemonHusky @bloomingtonin That’s right. Many signals are involved. Some factor in cyclist aversion to hills for example.

@pleaseclap @DemonHusky @bloomingtonin In the absence of a speed limit signal, the algorithms look for other signals, like the type of road. Cars are routed to arterials over residential streets even they are a bit longer, while bike routing would prefer residential streets.

The Pointz bike routing app is nice because it puts you in control with more options.

@pleaseclap @DemonHusky @bloomingtonin I can’t see how any routes will become more direct for anyone, because no new more direct paths are being added.

Tagging a slow speed limit is a signal that cars may want to take a less direct route on streets with faster speed limits, while tagging a high speed limit is a signal for bike routing that cyclists may be less safe and may themselves prefer a less direct but safer route.

@benfulton @bloomingtonin I’m glad it will create a new connection into the Griffy trail system, but Blue Ridge is high car ownership and car dependency— not many places close by to walk to. I wonder how much it will get used and why it was selected over other locations.

@FartsWithAnAccent I saw a split bike seat a decade ago. Rider said it was very comfortable. Maybe this variant is different because it tilts too. 🤷

@vegetaaaaaaa

After testing ssmtp, nullmailer, and msmtp for relay-only outgoing mail on Fedora #Linux. Here's my final report:

ssmtp is packaged for Fedora and I got it working, but the Ansible role I found for it had been abandoned by the author because ssmtp itself is unmaintained.
nullmailer might have worked, but is not packaged for Fedora.
msmtp worked. I used this Ansible role, after patching it to work on Fedora: https://github.com/chriswayg/ansible-msmtp-mailer

@atzanteol @markstos@lemmy.world

ssmtp is unmaintained.

msmtp is the recommended successor. The Arch wiki recommends also considering OpenSMTPD, which I haven't looked at yet.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/SSMTP

@intenselyhuman It was a weird option to include in the survey anyway, along with giant sports arena.

@ajsadauskas @fuckcars I built free software to quantify amenity categories within a 10-min walk:

https://mark.stosberg.com/new-software-to-calculate-walk-potential-for-cities/

My default categories:

Arts / cultural space
Bank / ATM
Bar / pub
Barber
Bike shop
Bus stop / Rail Station
Café / Tea Shop
Car share station
Community center / place of worship
Daycare
Fitness or Sports Center
Grocery store
Hardware store
Laundromat
Library
Liquor / cannabis store
Park
Pharmacy
Restaurant
School
Retail / boutique