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  • You know we're probably very close on the political spectrum.

    I've just studied a lot history, and you've basically described the entire debate that's been within the Supreme Court since day 1.

    Look at slavery and segregation. They ruled in favor of those several times, and eventually they even reversed their decisions. Like you said the constitution didn't change the court did. I wouldn't say ending school segregation was a rogue act.

    I personally hate this court. But I think it is very important to analyze these decisions in the historical context of the court.

    Like I said these decisions are terrible for the American people, they will take decades to repair, and cause terrible harm. My hope is we make it out of this and we have true reform of the courts.

    Between you and me I'd love to see this whole system torn down, but I'm doubtful that will happen in my lifetime.

    And I'll give you the suspension of habeas corpus and they released a multitude of decisions today. Your comment from days ago is now much much more accurate imo based on the decisions of the past 2 days.

  • I don't know choosing to not feed people when there is enough food to feed everyone seems a lot worse than choosing which people to not feed during a time of famine.

    Obviously more people die from the famine, but at least that's due to a lack of resources and not a manufactured scarcity

  • As opposed to the current time of surplus and abundance where it is if "you don't work you don't eat". Which is morally a lot worse considering there is more than enough food to feed everyone

  • Allow me to introduce you to my friend court packing.

    But also in terms of things like Roe, all we need to fix that is a law passed through congress. The court would have no constitutional basis challenging it at that point. If they did it loops back around to justifying court packing.

  • I'm always very intrigued by those pushing the rhetoric that it's too late to use elections to solve this, and admonish anyone that tries.

    But at the same time they themselves refuse to start a revolution they insist is the only way. While simultaneously waiting for someone else to do it for them.

    In the end the suggestion seems to be to not do anything and hope someone else does it for you. Be that by democratic means or armed means.

    If you're not starting the rebellion you sure as hell need to be engaged with the existing democratic proccess. Otherwise you're just not doing anything at all. Which is the worst option

  • Unfortunately viewed from the constitutionalist theory which has always existed within the court it does make sense. There is a fair argument, one i personally disagree with, that the result of Roe is not in the constitution and therefore not something the court can legislate from the bench. Likewise with the arguments used against Trans youth.

    I don't like these decisions, I don't support these decisions, but they do exist within the traditional frameworks and legal arguments of courts past. We've been rather fortunate for the past 30 or so years to have a more liberal court that prefers to take an interpretive view.

    The only decision they've made recently that is outside of that is the idea that the president has total immunity for "official acts" that has no basis in the constitution at all.

    If anything the current court make up emphasizes why things like Roe should have been codified years ago.

    These are dark times for many of the liberties we all enjoy, but for the most part this courts actions do line up with historical precedent of a conservative court. It is a nightmare, and far too many people are going to suffer. I just hope that we all make it out of this and Institute real reforms across the board.

  • In our system a large enough majority in congress can overrule a lot of what the courts are doing unless they go absolutely bonkers.

    The court can say there's nothing the in the constitution that prevents "X", but congress with a large enough majority can pass a bill without the president's signature to expressly allow "X".

    Our courts have not yet shown a willingness to go totally rouge and have voted against Trump several times this administration alone, but they always could go rouge I suppose. And of course they make shitty decisions like these.

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