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You should probably take a look at how many hours the average young person had to work a week to pay for their education or to pay rent back then,compared to now.. The numbers I can find suggest the average college aged person had to work around 18 hours a week to pay for their own education back in 1970. Today they have to work 61 hours a week.

Saying the younger generation doesn't have it harder in most western countries is objectively wrong.

I think pretty much everyone agrees with your take here. People are just saying that if kids are struggling and parents can afford it, it's weird for the parents not to help out financially.

Obviously the circumstances matter and if the kid is struggling because they're lazy or a drug addict you don't want to enable that but if they have their own kids and are working full time I would always support my kids financially if they needed that and I was able to.

Obviously parents are entitled to spend their own money but generally if kids are struggling parents want to help.

Your post makes it sound like the current young working generation has the same lived experience as people who are retired. That's just not the case at all. It's much harder for the average person to save up money and buy a house now than it was in the past.

I'm trying to have a discussion and understand your point of view. I'm not trying to change your mind.

I'm just saying that pretty much any time in history where major changes happened in the power structure of a country or region, it happened through violence.

And I'm talking about another time in history in a country where the elite had taken too many of the resources for themselves, that the average person could no longer accept which, resulted in violence that affected massive changes..

You stated that everythibg Elon touches goes to shit.

I showed that's objectively false.

I'm no tesla or Elon fan at all but I can recognize that the man has abilities to get things done even if he is a major douchebag.

You despise the French revolution and thinks it should never have happened?

He basically facilitated mass murder.. Most people will feel good when such a person is killed.

Murder of high level people has always been a very effective way for the lower classes to fight back when the elite has taken too much for themselves. It's often the only way to affect change if the elite is corrupt enough.

The problem is it's not good for stability which hurts the stock markets and the elites.

What on earth are you talking about?

Tesla is about the only company that actually makes money selling EVs.

The stock price has increased about 100% over the last year.

The all time high of the stock was literally 4 days ago..

Yeah spacex and tesla is just silly useless dust..

Like being the CEO of one of the only companies that's managed to make electric cars profitable while also being the CEO of the first company to ever reuse space rockets and boosters..

I don't like him as a person but I can recognise that he's a pretty remarkable CEO.

You think I did that?

I'm Danish and here your 2 parties would absolutely fit the categories I described. No exaggeration what so ever.

You can say a lot about Musk but he sure as shit gets things done.

I'm frustrated by the discourse too but I'm not sure it's for the same reasons as you.

What frustrates me is we never seem to discuss goals and why we have those goals.

Is the goal to keep the average temperature of earth as low as possible for as long as possible?

Is it to minimize the impact and costs for humans?

What exactly are we aiming for, and why?

What is your frustration with the discourse?

But what exactly do you want to change?

Lets say you had absolute power and could make whatever decisions for the human race you'd want.

I'm curious what you'd decide.

Im not saying there aren't things we can do better, but it's also not as easy as people make it out to be.

How tf can killing a single person with a handgun be classified as terrorism?

Everyone above 14 knows how dangerous smoking is. Doesn't make it less cool. Tbh it probably makes it more cool to most people.

This campaign is about as stupid as it gets.

It basically points out the only legit positive thing about smoking which is the fact that it looks cool.

Because smoking looks cool..

Very few people thinks smoking is uncool. It's obviously a health risk but I think that's part of the reason it's seen as cool. It's dangerous.

Just like riding a motorcycle, if there wasn't any increased danger associated with it, it wouldn't be cool.

In most other countries your 2 parties would be classified right wing and extreme right wing.

Geopolitics is so nice and simple if you're completely uninformed but just picks a tiny fraction of an issue and base your opinion around that..