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I mean, yeah it'll be better to have a term in which Reddit plays no part in defining is!

And this post is an opportunity to make exactly such a term!

Say "fuck spez" in the absolute best way possible - by moving on and forget that he ever existed, as we build our own stuff here.:-D

True, but doesn't Xhitter and Bluesky and Mastodon also have a type of voting? Even if it is called or functions slightly differently?

I did not explain much of the back story, but the Fediverse is already the term used to describe federated social media, so the term here that we need is to pick one that describes the specific subset of it that focuses on threaded conversions, centered around those topic areas (called posts, and then those topics being further aggregated into higher-level topics, called communities) rather than centered around a user tweeting/X-creting/whatever their shit.

And we also have a focus on much longer-form content than those others, which like Mastodon have smaller character limits imposed upon their thoughts (so that they cannot ramble on as I have done here:-).

But that would mean that we mainly talk about Linux...

Which, yup, sounds about right!

In that case though, [puts actshually hat on], wouldn't it be gun+verse?

That is halfway a joke.

We also still have Fediverse, to encompass everything that implements the ActivityPub protocol, e.g. Friendica, Mastodon, Pixelfed, Loops (planned but not implemented yet iirc?). So the Threadiverse/Forumverse/Whatever is meant to distinguish from that.

But Bulletinfedi is distinct enough I think?

I used to prefer "Forumverse" as well. But people don't seem to want to use it?

While "Threadiverse" seems to predate Meta's Threads here on Lemmy, see e.g. https://szmer.info/post/349217 and this comment from Ada https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/93840 from 2+ years ago. Tbf I did find a reference to Forumverse from 2 years ago as well, but then virtually nobody uses it again until essentially db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com rediscovers it a handful of months ago.

So "Threadiverse" has some history behind it, except then Meta ruined the association for many people. But... we here on Lemmy were using it first!!?

They both have features that Lemmy lacks.

Like PieFed has polls, post flairs, hashtags, categories of communities (basically multi-reddits), which are user customizable and shareable, and a lot more. Though lacking quite a bit of polish such as post and comment previews, and very little to almost no official app support (though an API was recently released and Thunder is being tested, and Interstellar already supports it). It's newer than Lemmy, but written in Python rather than the difficult Rust language, so in many ways has already surpassed Lemmy in terms of features (and even Reddit in some ways too, especially since the only new features there for the last decade were solely aimed at increasing profits rather than good experiences for the users).

Mbin's primary distinction is also supporting federation not only with Lemmy (and PieFed) but also Mastodon. And it has a different interface that some people prefer to Lemmy's. If you want both the Threadiverse/Forumverse/Whatever and Mastodon integration with a single account, this is the only option atm.

Both PieFed and Mbin are entirely separate implementations of the ActivityPub protocol, so whether you actually use them or not it is worth celebrating that Lemmy is now not the only one that implements this forum/thread/basically Reddit replacement style (other notable implementations include Friendica a Facebook replacement, and Mastodon an X/Twitter one, Pixelfed I think an Instagram one, etc.). Especially with Lemmy's association with "tankies" that tends to drive many people away (e.g. 100% of the people that I've ever told about Lemmy irl; and Reddit's r/RedditAlternatives is filled with stories of people who don't want to come here bc of all the BoTh SiDeS sAmE rhetoric that we allow here, plus Lemmy is somehow more authoritian than Reddit even, having a modlog but no modmail, no notification of a moderation event, no ability to discuss bc it simply says that a "mod" did it, and you don't have a right to even so much as be told that your content is now removed! instance admins have much more freedom here, it's fantastic, but actual users only have what manages to trickle down from them, and the software itself very much reflects an authoritarian mindset, even in comparison to Reddit).

Btw, fuck spez.

TLDR: Lemmy isn't the only game in town, yet we need a name that is both distinct from other Fediverse tools (Mastodon, Friendica, Pixelfed, Loops, etc.) while also being inclusive to the other Reddit replacement tools, currently Mbin and PieFed, but in the future including Sublinks, and who knows what else?

I don't know about you Lemmings but I'm a Pie-head :-P

Maybe we are poetic!? :-P

Yup:-( Though only one vote was lost anyway, bc that poll didn't federate out to Lemmy:-).

Anything containing "fedi" is going to scare people coming from the USA, for the foreseeable future, unfortunately:-(.

Is that bc of this being a post aggregation? Then wouldn't it be an "aggreverse"?

Furious hellbeast, barely escaping with his life

What exactly do you think "glory" is then!?!?!? 🤣😜🤪🙃🤐🤯🤢🤮💩

You can block them. On PieFed or Mbin it's trivial, in Lemmy... not so much, but possibly an app could do it, or a custom Ublock filter.

There may also be a community that shares only videos not from YouTube - I dunno, but if not, you could be the one who creates it and gets it going!:-)

How are you me?

Even when I'm hungry, damnit! 😅

No, it moved - the last post there was half a year ago, now it can be found at !MealtimeVideos@lemmy.cafe.

Yay I'm happy for you! 😊

I am so, so very sorry to hear that. That really sucks:-(. I hope that you find something you can live with, or even go straight to something good, if you can find it.:-)

Toxic people can also be fun, helpful, and even friendly. They can also be toxic. As too can I. Generally you want to avoid toxic people if you can... but you can't always do that (e.g. your boss, a parent especially if you are still young, etc.).

My advice is to focus more on yourself and your own issues, over which you have maximum control (and also responsibility). e.g. if several people can gaslight you, while nobody else around you is getting gaslit by any of them, then you are the common thread. I'm not trying to blame you to be clear - what do I know? - just offer food for thought (and anyway, it takes two to tango - so part of that would be their responsibility, but part is also yours?).

You can become immune to many forms of toxicity, by identifying those areas inside yourself that need bolstering, and working on them. Like therapy?

But that's tangential to your point. Yeah it's good to identity toxic YouTubers and avoid watching them:-). There are so very MANY red flags. And paying attention to those and avoiding the ones who display them is an example of you taking responsibility for your own mental health and stability - kudos! :-)

Thank you, that's awesome! 😎